I always had the impression that the SQL construction 'with <name>' is only a cosmetic addition to SQL to avoid the inlining of views into the main SQL text and in order to keep the logic of the SQL more evident. Am I wrong or it has any influence on optimizer ? B. Polarski -----Original Message----- From: Bobak, Mark [mailto:Mark.Bobak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, 12 September, 2006 10:50 PM To: charlottejanehammond@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Plea for Query Tuning Help One more idea: with subq as (select id from my_table where rownum=1) SELECT /*+ ordered use_nl(nv) */ nv.* FROM subq sq, NASTY_VIEW nv where sq.id = nv.id; Hope that helps, -Mark - -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l