RE: Oracle RAC Server Conf.
- From: "Scott Heisey" <oraracdba@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <exriscer@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:39:48 -0700
Yes, SUN/HP install and configure the HW but this typical for most HW
vendors of middle to high end installs. This is also typical of disk array
vendors as well. Oracle Advanced Customer Support (ACS) does a basic install
and creates a skeleton DB and that is all. Oracle consulting is typically
not engaged in exdata unless the customer asks for consulting.
After this install then the environment is yours. You can tune and manage
this environment just like you would any Oracle environment.
The only thing is that exdata comes with void the warranty rules. Oracle has
some strict rules for exadata HW.
1. No one else can plug into the infiband network
2. No other equipment other than SUN/HP in the rack.
If the Cell cmcli packages where not tied to the infiniband firmware you
could build this on your own with any network. I have not personally done
this but you should be able to build an exadata environment out of
virtualized environments.
If you don't want to follow these rules then you can just by the equipment
piecemeal just as we have for years.
My original point is that exadata is no more proprietary than any other HW
vendor. At this time exadata is a niche product and trying to move into a
all purpose product with V2.
In general the rack configuration you want is what you can afford. If you
are just testing then Ebay is great place. You can buy and setup 3 linux
quad cores for under $1500. Use 1 box as an iscsi target and the other 2 as
a cluster. I bought 2 SUN U60's and a D1000 off of ebay in 2002 and they
still run like champs.
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of LS Cheng
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:42 AM
To: oraracdba@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx; Oracle-L Freelists
Subject: Re: Oracle RAC Server Conf.
Only Oracle support and consultants can install, configure, modify an
Exadata/DB Machine software platform. So why learn something when you cannot
ever touch it...?
Probably that is wgar Mat means
Thanks
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Scott Heisey <oraracdba@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Matt, Just out of curiosity, what makes exadata proprietary? The version of
Oracle on exdata is not special and neither is linux. You are stuck with HP
or SUN as the vendor infiniband for the network and there is specific HBA
that is used.
I wouldn't call exdata any more proprietary than IBM HW. However exadata is
a HW solution for a particular application like DWH.
Scott
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On Behalf Of Matthew Zito
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 1:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Oracle RAC Server Conf.
Personally, I'd say skip the Exadata platform - why lock yourself into a
proprietary architecture? Buy 100 2 x 4-core processor servers with 48GB of
RAM each. That should give you a really good sense of whether your
application will scale in RAC environments. Of course, to make sure I/O
doesn't become a bottleneck, I'd recommend a 2000-disk EMC VMAX with a mix
of flash and fibre channel drives. Each one of the servers should have at
least 4 4-Gb/sec links into the SAN.
This is just for the development environment, of course.
Or, the OP could just google "oracle rac test environment" and see the
options presented. For me, the third one is "Build Your Own Oracle RAC
Cluster on Oracle Enterprise Linux and iSCSI", which definitely won't be as
fast as our solutions, but is almost certainly cheaper. Or, the sixth
option down the page is a presention by the always-popular Dan Norris on
building a RAC environment with VMware.
Matt
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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Robert Freeman
Sent: Sat 1/23/2010 11:52 AM
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Subject: Re: Oracle RAC Server Conf.
I'd buy 2 Oracle Exadata 2 servers with about 10tb of storage. You can do
lots of testing there!!
OH! You say that does not meet your budgetary requirements? Did you mention
what your needs or requirements were?
RF
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From: AMIT VERMA <verma.labs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: oracle-l <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 7:49:17 AM
Subject: Oracle RAC Server Conf.
hi,
i would like to test oracle rac 10g & 11g. please advise me what os, vm &
hardware should i use..
thanks in advance
amit v
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