RE: Oracle 12c DB for EM12c
- From: Peter Sharman <pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:16:41 -0700 (PDT)
Can't comment on that because I never use Support. ;)
While the version number stuff will undoubtedly cause some level of confusion
until people get used to tracking not just the Cloud Control version but also
the plugin versions, the plus side of the new plugin architecture allowing us
to get updates to support new releases SO much faster than we used to be able
to far outweighs that problem. IMHO, of course. :)
Pete
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-----Original Message-----
From: Niall Litchfield [mailto:niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:34 PM
To: Pete Sharman
Cc: mufc01666@xxxxxxxxx; fuzzy.graybeard@xxxxxxxxx; Oracle L
Subject: Re: Oracle 12c DB for EM12c
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Peter Sharman <pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Not quite correct. You need the 12.1.0.4.0 DB plugin, the version
> number of EM12c remains at 12.1.0.3.0.
>
> Ain't version numbers fun now!
>
>
Hijacking this a bit^H^H^H^H a lot. It's not so much the version numbers that
bother me, but the support/certified combo dance that seems likely to result. I
must admit to being really hacked off when EM11 had issues with clustered SOA
composites (because it received data from each of the cluster members rather
than just one) and support wouldn't help us out because the version of SOA was
a point release ahead of the certified combination. The reason it was a point
release ahead was of course because support had told our client to upgrade to
fix bugs in SOA. We had to construct a test case that used different components
to prove it was related to the fact that the environment was clustered rather
than a new failure of EM to recognize clusters when the version of SOA got a
patchset. In principle of course the plugin architecture will help greatly with
certification - especially if Oracle manage to mandate product groups certify
against an existing plugin or update the plugin before a new patchset is
released - but I do worry that there will be days of time spent on "no you need
this patch to OUI to apply that patch to the managed target and this plugin
updated to that version" before support issues actually get attention.
p.s. The client didn't bother licensing the SOA management suite (or several
other EM added cost options) partly as a result of this support silliness.
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