I will definitely talk to Bryn - but I am still wondering how many people care about possibility of reporting on fine-grained dependencies... Btw, last night I already started to work with PL/Scope data and looks like I've got at least something out of it. I modified the original Rob's query in the following way: select ..... from ..... ,( select i.obj#, i.symrep name, row_number() over(partition by i.obj# order by a.action#) procedure# from sys.plscope_identifier$ i, sys.plscope_action$ a where i.signature = a.signature and a.action=1 -- declaration and context#=1 -- root elements ) c where d.obj# = c.obj# and d.colpos = c.procedure# And from the first impression, it pretty much does what it is supposed to do. I didn't have time to run a deep test, but a couple of basic cases (referencing procedure/type/variable from one package to another) passed a sanity check. I will try to get more out of it (if time permits). Regards, Michael Rosenblum Dulcian Inc P.s. Fellow Oracle-L members, if you DO care about fine-grained dependencies - I would love to have your responses here (maybe even with business cases)! It will give a bit more weight to my request. Thanks in advance! -----Original Message----- From: Toon Koppelaars [mailto:toon.koppelaars@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:59 PM To: Michael Rosenblum Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Oracle 11g and fine-grained invalidation Unfortunately if in the package there are declarations of types/variables/cursors, the whole count is off by the number of non-procedural unit – and I at the current point I could not find any other metadata table to get what I need. So now, you'd have to employ plscope to provide you with the metadata, that enables you to find this offset... And yes, definitely seek out Bryn, and ask him to provide us with proper data dictionary based insight for this area. -- Toon Koppelaars RuleGen BV Toon.Koppelaars@xxxxxxxxxxx www.RuleGen.com<http://www.rulegen.com/> TheHelsinkiDeclaration.blogspot.com<http://thehelsinkideclaration.blogspot.com/> (co)Author: "Applied Mathematics for Database Professionals" www.RuleGen.com/pls/apex/f?p=14265:13<http://www.rulegen.com/pls/apex/f?p=14265:13>