The real issue is management. If Delaware fired and hired competent management, then most of the problems go away. Good managers find ways to prevent dead wood from gaining a foothold. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- From: Freeman, Donald [mailto:dofreeman@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:08 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: OT: standards I don't think that all public employees are bloodsucking vermin. I have = observed the people who actually are capable of, and perform work are = immediately burdened beyond capacity. However,Delaware, by removing the = 20% dead wood will simply have to recategorize 20% of the formerly = capable employees as, "The new dead wood" and start the cycle over. =20 -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of david wendelken Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:51 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: OT: standards An equally careful reading shows that Delaware is now paying higher = salaries for the remaining 79% of its deadwood. :) -----Original Message----- From: "Freeman, Donald" <dofreeman@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Aug 5, 2004 6:41 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: OT: standards Here's a happy note Ellis to lift you out of your gloom....In Statetech = =3D magazine I read this morning, "In 2001, the state (Delaware) dissolved = =3D the IT organization, then spent two years rebuilding it from =3D scratch....by making the state's salary structure similar to private =3D industry, Delaware was able to rehire about 80% of its IT staff and also = =3D lured tech workers from the private sector." =3D20 A careful reading of that sentence tells me that Delaware was able to = =3D SHED 20% of it's dead weight... Way to go Delaware! Anyway, Ellis you = =3D have provided the most entertaining reading I have experienced in =3D awhile. If you give up on IT you can join Scott Adams (Dilbert) or Dave = =3D Barry as a commentator. <g> ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------