Re: OEL 7
- From: Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Justin Mungal <justin@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 19:52:39 -0500
It wouldnt really be such a big deal maybe, but some of the packages
included dont make much sense. I mean, how many people need bluetooth on a
server? A lot of places dont want firefox on a server, but that is
installed by default, and while you may not need a full xwin install, most
people use xclock to verify that its working. I really think the package
selection conversation (or lack thereof) is probably the most irritating
piece.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Justin Mungal <justin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> So it sounds like they made it completely different from the RHEL7
> installation GUI, and it's also awful? I'll have to check it out sometime.
> The last OL I used was version 6 for some 12c testing. It worked fine. I
> recall manually disabling SELinux and iptables after the install, however
> I'm not sure if that could have been done during the installation or not.
> Looking at some screenshots I have of the OL 6 installation, it looks like
> firstboot is no longer there (which is where I would disable SELinux and
> iptables in CentOS 5).
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> The biggest reason is there is no way to disable them during the install
>> process. Having them enabled by default is not a big deal, but then having
>> to go through the manual disable process is annoying to say the least, and
>> a major change from previous versions.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:57 PM, William Muriithi <
>> william.muriithi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > Yeah, that would be interesting to know. To explain further, they
>>> have several groups of packages you can choose for installation, but there
>>> there is no way to pick and choose individual packages, eg X windows or
>>> gnome desktop, only groups, eg network server. If that is intended to copy
>>> RHEL, I would have to say neither one has a good understanding of their
>>> user base.
>>> >
>>>
>>> You could install minimal, then install whatever you need post operating
>>> system install. You can install individual rpm instead of groups then.
>>>
>>> > Also, selinux and firewall are installed and enabled by default and
>>> have to be manually disabled.
>>> >
>>> Odd, why is this bad? So many current security problems are due to
>>> vendors defaulting to insecure setup. They seem to be thinking twice about
>>> it these days. Heck, even windows by default have the firewall enabled.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew W. Kerber
>>
>> 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'
>>
>
>
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