Re: OEL 7

  • From: Hans Forbrich <fuzzy.graybeard@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:03:03 -0600

On 31/07/2014 3:41 PM, Andrew Kerber wrote:
Yeah, that would be interesting to know. To explain further, they have several groups of packages you can choose for installation, but there there is no way to pick and choose individual packages, eg X windows or gnome desktop, only groups, eg network server. If that is intended to copy RHEL, I would have to say neither one has a good understanding of their user base.

Also, selinux and firewall are installed and enabled by default and have to be manually disabled.
Confirmed, from the CentOS 7 that I just downloaded and installed - OL7 is attempting to stay very close to the Red Hat install style. I'm guessing that the UI style was baked by the Fedora project, which is, of course, the user community ...

One of the differences I note is that CentOS has Gnome and KDE desktop package groups available, whereas OL 7 does not - implying that Oracle deliberately does not want to push the distro as a desktop replacement. Fair enough - we've seen that Oracle stays away from that arena for the most part. In one way I'm surprised Oracle has even provided a 'Server with GUI' option, as the alternative (using X server on regular desktop or with Windows and Cygwin/X or Xming) is not unrealistic.

Other than that, I'd say they are also pushing the YUM way of adding extensions and packages. I note that they have OL7 available on public-yum.oracle.com, and I have to admit it is a heck of a lot easier *for me* to go the YUM way than to hunt through pirut and the package groups 'they' have put together.

Important to note that Oracle Linux 7 is not even recognized by MOS Certifications for database, therefore no DB products are supported on it yet. Based on history, they will not make that retroactive, so unless there is another patch set for 11gR2, I doubt that will be officially supported. With DB 12c able to work with SELinux, it would make some sense then to see SELinux automatically enabled, and most SAs I know insist on firewall. It'll be interesting to see what they introduce as the OL7 version of 'oracle-validated.rpm' ...

Of course, with the SysV services pretty much gone bye-bye in favour of systemctl, a new tempfs called /run to , and things like sysctl.conf now being 'in' /etc/sysctl.d/ (which symlinks back to the old one), this new release is going to provide a lot of opportunity for new learning ...

/Hans

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