Re: ODA and HCC - current state

  • From: Kevin Closson <ora_kclosson@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:17:15 -0700 (PDT)

> HCC is a distinct  optimization.
Actually, HCC is merely "allowed" on ZFSSA (S7000) and Pillar. There is no HCC 
code executing in those storage processors unlike Exadata where decompression 
of HCC blocks (usually) does occur down in storage.

Oracle is using a simple discovery mechanism via SNMP and if they "smell" 
standards-based storage (it is NFS after all) that *they* think *you* should be 
using then they allow the creation and access of HCC blocks.

HCC is RDBMS generic code. It will function on any NFS storage if you 
"accidentally" forget to apply the patche that disables it. It functions on 
Exadata with storage offload processing disabled and it made it all the way 
through Beta on customers' systems that were neither Exadata nor NFS. 


I've never seen precedence for this before. Patches that disables generic RDBMS 
functionality based on the storage vendor from whom you purchased your 
standards-based storage. What's next? motherboard detection that enables or 
disables generic RDBMS code?  Long live Open Systems.


Some more on the matter:
http://oracleprof.blogspot.com/2011/11/dnfs-configuration-and-hybrid-column.html
http://oracleprof.blogspot.com/2012/04/hcc-on-non-exadata-how-oracle-is.html

//www.freelists.org/post/oracle-l/Re-HCC-in-Pillar-Storage,8
http://www.pythian.com/news/31725/oracle-database-appliance-storage-expansion-with-nfs-dnfs-hcc/#comment-756541
http://bartsjerps.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/exadata-columnar-for-dummies/

https://twitter.com/pavelxruzicka/statuses/159388185644896256








________________________________
 From: Hans Forbrich <fuzzy.graybeard@xxxxxxxxx>
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: ODA and HCC - current state
 
HCC is supported and indeed is a preferred option in ZFS on ODA. (Some 
rules apply.)  Since ZFS implements copy-on-write, HCC is a distinct 
optimization.

Some info at 
https://blogs.oracle.com/eSTEP/entry/oda_announcing_oda_external_storage

HTH
/Hans

On 26/08/2012 1:20 PM, Kamus wrote:
> I have no idea about ZFS storage, AFAIK, HCC is only available in Exadata, 
> not in ODA.

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