RE: BIG database backup methods

  • From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: FREEMANR@xxxxxxxx, "'Kline.Michael '" <Michael.Kline@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:54:45 -0500

Michael - Just to add one more note to what Robert said. Often RAID5 is used
for extremely large databases. Since RAID5 writes slooowly, your recovery
time may be even longer than you think. 

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Freeman Robert - IL
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:29 PM
To: 'Kline.Michael '; 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '
Subject: RE: BIG database backup methods

There are a few options depending on your environemnt. Incremental backups
with RMAN can certainly reduce the size of your backup sets. Still, the
initial full backup is going to take some time to complete. How many tape
drives do you currently have access to? How long will it take to backup your
1-2 TB database to these drives? RMAN can parallelize the backup to many
drives, of course.

Also, compression can help as well. Early RMAN offers a quazi compression,
but 10g offers full blown compression (ala ZIP) which is most useful unless
the backup is getting compressed already (i.e. Your tape system does
compression). 

I'm not sure about the data you have, but if you make your tablespaces read
only, then you only need to back them up once (and retain that backup of
couse). 

Make sure management understands that recovery times will be impacted by
moving from disk to tape. 

If you are new to RMAN check out my Oracle Press book, Oracle9i RMAN Backup
and Recovery.

Cheers!

RF

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 9/21/2004 1:11 PM
Subject: BIG database backup methods

We have the "luxury?" of being able to do shadow copies for many of our
data warehouses. These are only in the 1-2 TB range, but with shadow
copy, we start at perhaps 2AM with the syncing, and then around 4PM we
stop the database, wait about 5 minutes, break the volumes and we're
back up.
 

 

Management is getting very hungry looking at all these disks that are
for backup and thinking "If we used RMAN and went to tape it would be
better...

 

I'm not so sure. 1-2 TB in 5 minutes is pretty good.

 

What are others doing?

 

Michael Kline
Database Administration
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