is it a long way out? I was having the discussion with a team mate this morning after I read the article on metalink. If it is such a small thing, why announce it so far out? Is Oracle prepping customers well in advance of the desupport (couldn't find any other 12g references on a quick metalink search) to give them time to prepare for this? Is 11gR2 going to be announced at OOW this year? Bradd Piontek Oracle Blog: http://piontekdd.blogspot.com Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/piontekdd On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, jason arneil <jason.arneil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Oh, I don't know about pushing OCFS/OCFS2, I think ASM is where the big > push from oracle is. > > You are right, about this chicken and egg syndrome, but 12g is a LONG way > out. > > We are still waiting 11gR2, right? > > jason. > > -- > http://jarneil.wordpress.com > > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Bradd Piontek <piontekdd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I would think storing the OCR and voting disks in ASM would be an issue, >> as ASM is just another cluster resource and is generally brought up by ASM. >> My guess is they'll be pushing the use of OCFS/OCFS2 a bit more. >> >> Bradd Piontek >> Oracle Blog: http://piontekdd.blogspot.com >> Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/piontekdd >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Matthew Zito <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> We were discussing this over here, and the big question we came up with >>> is: >>> >>> >>> >>> "Does this mean that simply raw devices a la old school Red Hat >>> (/dev/raw/raw1) are desupported, or that all character/non-buffered IO >>> devices are desupported (a la /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s2 or /dev/sda2 with >>> O_DIRECT)?" >>> >>> >>> >>> If the former, it's a non-issue for most environments, if it's the >>> latter, it opens up a host of questions around what will be supported. >>> Effectively, it requires that people have a clustered filesystem to use, or >>> somehow Oracle jobbies up ASM such that you can put OCR and voting >>> internally and making ASM a dependency for CRS to run. >>> >>> >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>> oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *dba1 mcc >>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:30 PM >>> *To:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> *Subject:* Re: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices >>> >>> >>> >>> Redhat RHEL 6 will also NOT support raw device. >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On *Thu, 8/7/08, Hemant K Chitale <hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>* wrote: >>> >>> From: Hemant K Chitale <hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices >>> To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 11:02 AM >>> >>> For those using Raw Devices (wether for Redo Logs in non-RAC or for >>> >>> Database Files as well in RAC), >>> >>> see MetaLink Note#578455.1 "Announcement of De-Support of RAW >>> >>> devices in Release 12G " >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hemant K Chitale >>> http://hemantoracledba.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> >>> "A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a >>> >>> 'Yes' >>> >>> merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble." >>> >>> Mohandas Gandhi >>> >>> Quotes >>> >>> : http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mohandas_gandhi.html >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >