I used to do the same as Alexis, until I heard Ethan speak in Seattle. Now all my patients get a 2cc flush of 0.9 % NaCl before I remove the needle. I wait until after my earlies are over to pull out the butterfly, so, 1 min plus, is my answer.... Jim Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:08 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > optimal Digest Tue, 14 Jun 2011 Volume: 02 Issue: 111 > > In This Issue: > [optimal] Re: When to remove needle > [optimal] Re: When to remove needle > [optimal] Re: When to remove needle > [optimal] Michael Elrod is out of the office. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Ethan Priel <prieleye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [optimal] Re: When to remove needle > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:43:45 +0300 > > Uh, many of our patients are on all kinds of anticoagulants, blood thinners > and what not. > > > It is a 'nice touch' to have them say next time – > > ' you know, this is the only place I did not have a large black and blue mark > after the blood test'… > > > > Ethan > > > > From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Ray Gardner > Sent: 14 June, 2011 00:19 > To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [optimal] Re: When to remove needle > > > > Why apply pressure to injection sight when you can use a pressure patch. > After the transit phase I use 2x2 folded twice, apply light pressure, pull > needle out, the with tranpor tape pull skin tight and stick it down. Take > about a half a second or so. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Alexis Smith <alexis@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >