[optimal] Re: From Denice re New York Times Article

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  • To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 11:54:40 -0500 (EST)

Hate to say it, but you are preaching to the choir!!!  Wish the government had 
to live by the laws they make us live by, with the same benefits!  And the 
benefits should stop the day they are out of office.
 
I had a patient in my chairs today getting both OCT and photos (only the photos 
will be partially reimbursed as the OCT can't be billed on the same visit) and 
was being complained to about that costing being  .... .
 
I can only compare it to the mandates on our education system - no child left 
behind, foreign language as primary and requiring aids to translate, ....  
These costs to the educational system are UNFUNDED by the government, but are 
MANDATED.  Same as healthcare.  You have to give the same to everyone even 
those not paying anything in taxes.  Education is over 75% of our annual town 
budget total - which everyone (property owners) pays whether they have kids in 
the system or not.
 
Very frustrating.   I see the town financial burden as an elected Board of 
Finance member - volunteer position.  Trying to squeeze out more services with 
less and less funding.
 
Lori
 
 
Lori Guerette, CRA COA
Consulting Ophthalmologists, PC
704 Hebron Ave, Ste 200
Glastonbury, CT  06030
860-368-2235 Glastonbury
860-304-4703 personal cell
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Subject: [optimal] From Denice re New York Times Article




Re:  Recent New York Times article on the “astronomical fees that CPMC charges”
 
In all fairness, one of the reasons CPMC is being picked on is because most 
states with large urban hospitals ( New York , Boston, Miami, Chicago, etc) do 
not have sunshine laws.  They are not required to divulge their charges, like 
we are
 
SF was recently voted ( by New York Times!!!!) as THE most expensive city to 
live.  A studio one bedroom apartment in the right neighborhood costs nearly 
2K.  What do people expect.    Snow cone prices in a Haagan Daaz city?  The 
square footage here alone is out of the solar system.
 
Couple this with our astronomically HIGH percentage of non paying immigrant 
population.  For every non insured non English speaking patient we see, we 
write off close to a thousand bucks            ( cause by ADA law, we have to 
PAY for their interpreter even though they aren’t paying us…) so our patients 
end up COSTING us money.  Someone has to make it up on the back end. Do the 
math.
 
My center alone, and we are drop in the CPMC bucket, wrote off nearly a million 
bucks last year to “charity care”.  Who pays my rent, my salary, my IT, etc 
when we are LOSING money? CPMC writes it off and has to make up for it in other 
ways. 
 
Our fees are regionally driven.  Our OCT charge is $76.00 for one eye.  Out of 
that, we are reimbursed  $14.56.  This entire center, to provide a service to a 
patient, reimbursed 14.56, SPENT 200.00 for the interpreter and that doesn’t 
even factor in overhead….  Makes my head spin…
 
If I were running the ODC as a private business, we would have been OUT of 
business years ago.  Luckily, we have CPMC and Sutter health to subsidize the 
cost so that EVERYONE walking through the door gets the same level of care, 
paying or not. 60% of the patients we saw yesterday we saw as charity care.    
All were provided interpreters, transportation, and seen ON TIME.
 
To demonize CPMC as a Pacific Heights luxury hospital is inaccurate and unfair. 
 
Respectfully,
Denice
 
FYI:   the average salary for a Muni bus driver in this town is 76k! 
 
 
 

Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS 
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center 
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology 
2100 Webster Street Suite 212 
San Francisco CA 94115
(415) 600-3937   FAX (415) 600-6563
 


From: Denice Barsness [mailto:DeniceBars@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 7:37 AM
To: CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
Subject: Fwd: Article on prices
 



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From: <[mailto:jpgilman2001@xxxxxxxxx] jpgilman2001@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: December 4, 2013, 6:03:10 AM PST
To: Denice Barsness <[mailto:denicebars@xxxxxxxxxxx] denicebars@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Article on prices



[http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/health/as-hospital-costs-soar-single-stitch-tops-500.html?_r=0]
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/03/health/as-hospital-costs-soar-single-stitch-tops-500.html?_r=0


 

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This article targets you guys for being the most expensive health care in the 
US.

 

You probably charge $ 500.00 for an OCT ?

 

Jimbalaya

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