I totally agree with you about the fatigue factor – not only do the patients zone out – the examiner’s do to!! Obviously, we will do what is best for the patient, but hopefully the best is not the full threshold 10-2. Rhonda From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave's Personal Email Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:20 PM To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [optimal] Re: From Denice re Marmor Protocol Plaquenil Screening 15 years ago we were told to use a red dot stimuli. My how times have changed. It seems to me that a full threshold maybe excessive and inaccurate. Patient reliability tends to trail off on the longer threshold tests. Has there been any macula VF studies on plaquenil patients? I'm curious to see if it really matters. I also thought plaquenil is more macula toxic than anywhere else in the eye. I'm not trying to create controversy, I'm just curious. Warm Regards, David Clark, COA Territory Manager / US Dealer Partners Topcon Medical Systems 111 Bauer Drive Oakland, NJ 07436 Dclark@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Dclark@xxxxxxxxxx> Customer service 866-922-6278 Cell: 551-579-1062 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 10, 2013, at 4:12 PM, "Curtis, Rhonda" <Curtis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Curtis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Bless you for all the techs out there who have ever done a full threshold 10-2. Rhonda From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:06 PM To: 'optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>' Subject: [optimal] Re: From Denice re Marmor Protocol Plaquenil Screening Rhonda See small print in Ryan’s message. 10-2 SITA Standard About 4 minutes Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center CPMC Department of Ophthalmology 2100 Webster Street Suite 212 San Francisco CA 94115 (415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563 From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Curtis, Rhonda Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:59 PM To: 'optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>' Subject: [optimal] Re: From Denice re Marmor Protocol Plaquenil Screening Please, please be a white target used with a standard program – it takes FOREVER to do the full threshold testing. Rhonda From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:37 PM To: 'optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>' Cc: Soboleva, Marina Subject: [optimal] From Denice re Marmor Protocol Plaquenil Screening Can’t argue with that final weigh in.!!! Thanks Ryan, Thanks Optimal! Ryan, off optimal, can you contact me? I’d like your eMail and to chat. Thanks Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center CPMC Department of Ophthalmology 2100 Webster Street Suite 212 San Francisco CA 94115 (415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563 From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nelson, Ryan Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 10:16 AM To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [optimal] Re: From Denice re Marmor Protocol Plaquenil Screening All, I spoke with Dr. Marmor earlier this morning. He stated he uses the WHITE target, 10-2 SITA with the Pattern Deviation Plot. Hope this helps. <image001.jpg> From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael R. Turano, Jr. Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:34 AM To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [optimal] Re: From Denice re Marmor Protocol Plaquenil Screening 10-2 white is what the AAO paper states. Mike __ Michael Turano c. 917.826.9506 f. 917.591.1841 e. turano@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:turano@xxxxxxxxx> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: The Marmor protocols for Plaquenil screening © 2011 by the American Academy of Ophthalmology ISSN 0161-6420/11/$–see front matter 415 Published by Elsevier Inc. doi:10.1016/j.ophtha.2010.11.017 Do not indicate if 10-2 VF should be white or red target. Does anyone out there know for sure? 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