[optimal] Re: [**External**] Google and Ophthalmic Imaging Neural Nets

  • From: Sandor Ferenczy <sandorferenczy@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:06:47 -0500

Neither fake news or bad science.

Machine learning (a computer's progressive improvement at a task based on
training rather than explicit programming) is real, has been around since
the '50s, and is more and more being applied to medicine.


The most important part of this general public article are the second two
paragraphs:

The algorithms didn’t outperform existing medical approaches such as blood

tests, according to a study of the finding published in the journal Nature
Biomedical Engineering. The work needs to be validated and repeated on more
people before it gains broader acceptance, several outside physicians said.

But the new approach could build on doctors’ current abilities by
providing a tool that people could one day use to quickly and easily screen
themselves for health risks that can contribute to heart disease, the
leading cause of death worldwide.





-sandor



On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:34 PM, CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center <
cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am unclear as to how these poor Topcon images would help screen for
stroke

Unless they are referring to H. Plaque, Occlusions, etc and the usual
signs that would send a patient for a Carotid angiogram.

Fake news or bad science?



Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, CDOS, FOPS

CPMC Dept of Ophthalmology/ The Eye Institute

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*From:* Barsness, Denice
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:30 PM
*To:* CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* FW: [**External**] [optimal] Google and Ophthalmic Imaging
Neural Nets




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Interesting article at link below. Article says images are scans, but the
notch says otherwise.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/
02/19/google-used-artificial-intelligence-to-predict-heart-
attacks-with-the-human-eye/?utm_term=.27acdee9d2c2
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Anyone out there participating is such studies?



Richard Press posted about a similar project re diabetes last march.



ALSO — Is Google a sustaining member of OPS?



john michael coppinger

jmc eye photo











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