OK, many thanks for this, and apologies for the delay.
If I would write in Finnish to this list, not many of you would probably
understand a word or very much (smile).
About flowed or not flowed format, many e-mail services and even programs
do change the layout of the original message however they are posted.
Bye for now,
Jyrki
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Definitely, Jyrki, you were very clear in your description. Plus, how
many of us know one word in Finish?
I could not tell anything about the flow of your e-mail, but am on
several lists, fly through them pretty fast.
Bye for now,
Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jyrki Voutilainen
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 1:17 AM
To: Optacon User List <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optacon-l] Thanks and PS (was Re: Re: Checking Printed Mail
without Scanning)
Many thanks for L-shaped desks and shredders *smile*. I could simply have
written something like "I have a L-shaped desk...". But this is how it
works when you are writing in a foreign language. When doing this, one
has
to translate everything from his/her native language to the foreign one
and then try to write something that doesn't look like a translation
*smile*. When typing "desktop" I probably thought about the Windows
Desktop. But the main thing is perhaps that one succeeds to be
understood.
I guess there are hundreds of such Optacon stories that people could
share
and have already shared. All these stories tell the same, the
irreplaceability of the Optacon for those who have learned to use it.
P.S. Does anyone see any difference when reading my previous and this
post
when comparing to my earlier ones? The difference is that they have been
wrapped by the e-mail client's built-in editor while the previous ones
have not been. If the "flowed" header would remain in the copies on the
list, there wouldn't be any difference when reading wrapped or unwrapped
posts. This header is inserted when a message is sent as plain text, but
some services remove that header like some others *sad*. "Flowed" means
that a text line next to the previous one ending with a space belongs to
the same paragraph than the previous line (see
<https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3676.txt>). When the message text is wrapped
like this, a space is inserted at the end of every line followed by a new
one even without the "flowed" header. Therefore inline replying should
work fine with the most e-mail clients, but as an old nerd I would prefer
that the "flowed" header would remain everywhere if possible. Then
wrapping before sending a message wouldn't be that essential.
Bye for now,
Jyrki
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
L-shaped desk, best way to go for sure. Here in the U.S., we call thoseVerizon
paper things shredders.
I am going to have my land line transferred to a cell phone, and
said to bring my telephone company account number. So, I went into mystore,
files, pulled out last month's statement, found number with good old
Optacon, folded it out, put it in my purse. When I go to the phone
I'll have the genuine article right at the ready.of
Bye for now,
Carolyn
-----Original Message-----
From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jyrki Voutilainen
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:14 AM
To: Optacon User List <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optacon-l] Checking Printed Mail without Scanning
Hi,
I have a desktop that is formed like the letter "L". On the right side
down
that "letter" is all my data equipment, and things like the Optacon, a
Perkins Brailler etc. are on the left one. Yesterday afternoon I sat
letters
in front of that side and started to check three unopened printed
Perhaps
archiving two and putting one in the paper destroyer, which is an
electric
one that can be bought from many shops that sell office products.
contents
there is a better word than "paper destroyer" for this device, but
anyway.
And yes, I've written about the same thing even before (smile).
One thing that satisfied me once again was that even though I am not a
fast Optacon reader at all I was able to get access to the main
of these official documents in order to decide what was worth archivinglook
and what wasn't without performing scanning on any of these letters.
Being
familiar with the standard layout of such documents I knew where to
for the most relevant information without reading the entire stuff.and
Fortunately, most of the authorities follow that standard. As far as I
know, these standards are, or have been, national. They have made it
possible to post letters in windowed envelopes instead of using address
labels. When posting domestic letters I use the same method even when
returning a filled form. I just put the address page on the form page
in
put the pages into the envelope, and the recipient's address is always
be
the middle of the window. Without a standard page layout that wouldn't
possible without a lot of adjustment and testing, so thanks to the
standard layout (smile).