I just read several spice bottles today when looking for the spices to put in my sweet potato pie (just like pumpkin pie)! There was one I had a really hard time figuring out, but I don't read spices that often, so it's probably a thing of getting used to them, like anything else... Nance Nancy Shackelford ----- Please check out my store...Something for everyone! www.nk-shouseofstuff.biz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:14 PM Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Research >I like to place the can or bottle in my lap in the area between my thighs. >I > run my camera with my right hand while kind of turning the can or bottle > as > I need to with my fingers. I have the camera between my thumb and first > three fingers generally, but by pulling out your third finger, you can > kind > of roll and stabilize the bottle or can. Takes a little practice, but it > can > be done. > > Dianne > > -----Original Message----- > From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Marie Rudys > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:17 PM > To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Research > > I hate to ask, but how do you read a prescription bottle? I have never > figured out how to read a can of soup or tomato sauce. I can read > something > > if it is flat, but round? That puzzles me. > > Marie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:45 PM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Research > > >>I am just sitting here thinking of how many times I purchased something >>and >> used the Optacon to follow the line drawings to see which buttons did >> what. >> Again with all the graphics we contend with in the name of affect, >> directions can often be more difficult, but I'd still rather try with the >> optacon, and reading prescription bottles is way easier with the optacon. >> >> Dianne >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of H & C Arnold >> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:18 PM >> To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Research >> >> I agree about the combination of tools. My husband asked me about a >> talking >> one, but I told him that I thought that would reduce my impression of >> what >> was where and how it was laid out. Also I don't see how I could read a >> floor >> >> plan for an apartment with one that talked. >> >> In God We Trust, >> >> Carolyn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:50 PM >> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Research >> >> >> I still use my slate and stylus as well and have found over the years >> that >> all of these tools work together to enable me. It shouldn't have to be >> one >> thing or the other. I was not aware that they ever finished that talking >> optacon. I was very interested in that researched, but stopped hearing >> about >> it after a time. >> >> Dianne >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Nick Dotson >> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:15 AM >> To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Research >> >> It is an inaccurate observation that people don't use pens and pencils >> anymore. BTW, I still use slate and styli. >> >> Nick >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Fran >> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:07 AM >> To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Research >> >> HI all, >> I admit that I've been using the optacon less and less with the advent of >> computers, but this is natural...people hardly use pens and pencils >> anymore! >> >> But even with PCs, OCR, talking phones, readily available audiobooks, and >> much more, the optacon cannot be replaced. There are certain tasks which >> only the optacon can perform, and the freedom and self-confidence it can >> give us has no match. So screen readers and the optacon should be viewed >> as >> complementary technologies, rather than in competition. Will Freedom >> Scientific or other companies ever realize that and make a profit out of >> this? >> >> Happy new year to all! >> >> Fran >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carrie Green" <midorikeri@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: "Optacon List" <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:04 AM >> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Optacon Research >> >> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> To add my two cents to the conversation, I'd hazard a guess that perhaps >>> Freedom Scientific doesn't want other alternatives besides what they are >>> currently producing. If we have a device that can give us the ability to >>> view graphics and text without having to purchase a screen reader or OCR >>> software/hardware or a braille display, that would limit their profit >>> margins. Of course, only certain people can use the optacon, as those >>> that >> >>> lose their sight later in life may not even use braille, and may not >>> have >>> or be able to develop the tactile skills necessary to use an Optacon. I >>> know a number of blind individuals that just can't individuate the >>> braille >> >>> dots, and surmise that the Optacon would be next to impossible for them >>> to >> >>> use. I personally have challenges with my Optacon, as I had some very >>> basic training in primary school, but didn't purchase one until I was >>> about thirty years of age. My skills are not very good, but I still try >>> to >> >>> use it as often as possible. They are amaz >>> ing tools for us, and I do hope that there is something comparable in >>> the >>> near future. >>> >>> Happy New Year. >>> >>> Carrie >>> to view the list archives, go to: >>> >>> www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l >>> >>> To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >>> >>> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the >>> quotes) in the message subject. >>> >>> Tell your friends about the list. 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