Craig Birkmaier wrote: > No Bert, I'm not confusing anything but you. You're back to playing > linguistic game again. How is that that when you make ridiculous assertions, it's because I'm playing a "linguistic game?" > As for Amazon you are incorrect. The Kindle does live in a walled > garden, but it makes extensive use of the Internet, not a proprietary > link. Wrong, Craig. The original Kindle e-reader, and I specified e-reader, i.e. the original 2007 product, doesn't even connect to the Internet. It connects via a Sprint 3G cdma2000 network, and later an AT&T 3G GSM network, to Amazon's repository. That's it. It wasn't until the 3rd gen, mid-2010, that ANY of these Kindles had an Internet connection at all. That first 3rd gen device could use both 3G and WiFi. So that's the beginning of unwalling their scheme. And the Kindle Fire tablet, 2012, comes in WiFi or 4G versions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Kindle So, Amazon's Kindle started off as a walled garden. Those e-readers could only access Amazon content through a dedicated cell connection, in a proprietary e-book format. This is hardly comparable to the fact that my lawn service and my bank require authentication on their Internet sites! Which I can access with any Internet devide I buy at Best Buy, over any ISP connection to the Internet. > So you can call it whatever you want, but the non-DBS MVPDs are in the > process of moving their walled garden content yo the Internet. Yes there > are many new content sources out in cyberspace, but the MVPD content > bundles still provide exclusive content to 83% of U.S. homes, and it is > likely that they will continue to do so as they move the bits to the > Internet. You'll probably (most likely) be surprised. If you really mean moving to the Internet, just like any other OTT site, accessible by anyone with any ISP connection, then I'll bet you they will have to do a lot of experimenting with bundles. Simply because they will have competition. If the competition figures out a more attractive set of bundles that more people want, the MVPD in question will have to respond, or lose customers. If what you are talking about is merely IPTV, i.e. retaining the walled garden but changing protocols from MPEG-2 broadcast and proprietary VOD, to IP, and if all the other MVPDs do the same thing and stay walled up, then of course nothing has really changed. Except, of course, the content owners are already beyond this version of reality you're holding on to. The content owners THEMSELVES are bypassing the MVPDs, in baby steps at first. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.