Tom Barry wrote: > Too bad there is no 8x8 block mode since H264 > tried without that and eventually had to add it > for HDTV detail. And what about no B-frames? I find both of those omissions to be killers, and the fact that apparently Google is not open to changing this state of affairs. I can appreciate the worry about patent infringement. However, if something is made worse by such worries (worse in terms of compression efficiency), let's not pretend it is better with claims of 50 percent improvement. This is not an advancement in coding efficiency, only POTENTIALLY something that may (who knows) remain royalty-free. The analysis Ron posted was quite good, IMO. And one indication is how the analysis compares the DCT with the integer transform of H.264. They passed with flying colors, IMO. Free of the uninformed hype that suggests any new name for a transform MUST mean a more efficient transform that what came before. Bert _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.