> Think of it this way: MPEG4 is marketers. MPEG-4 is not "marketers". It is a standard, created by MPEG. > the organizations I referred to > are engineers ONLY. If you think that MPEG4IF knows more > about AVC than > one of the MPEG committees, your cluelessness continues. MPEGIF has a strong interop program where real AVC bitstreams get created, exchanged and cross-checked on a daily basis. You really think that this is a bunch of marketeers at work? MPEGIF was created by engineers in MPEG - the ones that saw it takes engineers *and* marketeers to get a technology adopted. Rob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.