The intellectual property rights in software are usually defined by copyright rather than by letters patent, so the rights to exclude do not end in twenty years. That is why Microsoft has more money than God. We should wish software was protected exclusively by letters patent. It certainly would be more equitable to other inventors. The idea that algorithms should be unpatentable comes from Protestant Christians who think the algorithms are in the mind of God or some other cockamamie idea. The academics didn't want to be prevented from writing equations on paper, but that could have been solved by some sort of fair use doctrine being borrowed from copyright law. One of the big losers when machine-run algorithms were considered unpatentable was the inventor of DFT -- Toumey (sp?), from Princeton as I recall. Why should he have had less protection for his technical contibution than an inventor of some trivial gadget? The sad fact of being an inventor is that the large companies who profit handsomely from your idea will steamroll you to avoid paying any royalty. Everybody wants a freebie. That's the real greed, the greed of thievery. And it's usually the thieves who most vociferously accuse honest workmen of being greedy. Al Limberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:25 AM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Definition of Greed > Patents were originally an idea to improve the public good. They were > harder to get, expired quickly, and did not apply to abstract algorithms > before some court case in the 1980's. > > But like any other series of complicated laws of government favoritism > they have spawned an ecosystem of their own, with predators and > parasites causing a tax on the system. > > We seriously need reform and should banish software patents completely. > > - Tom > > Craig Birkmaier wrote: > > At 8:57 PM -0700 4/2/08, John Willkie wrote: > > > >> Isn't an "inventor" one who possesses or seeks to posses a patent? > >> Isn't that a deed that permits one to extract "monopoly rents?" > > > > > > No. > > > > The whole purpose of patents "was" to publish the details of inventions > > so that society as a whole could benefit from the rapid proliferation of > > the technology. The whole point was NOT to restrict access or to charge > > monopoly rents, but to give the inventor fair compensation for the > > invention in exchange for a period of exclusivity. > > > > That being said, the intent of patents and the reality have turned into > > different things. We now see non-inventors, typically lawyers, buying > > and litigating patents for profit - I'm not certain GREED is the correct > > term for this... > > > > I prefer sleazy. > > > > It could be argued that much of the most valuable intellectual property > > is found in trade secrets, not patents. IN this case the companies ARE > > hoarding the technology for profit. Again, this may not be greed, but > > rather the desire to prevent others from using and/or profiting from an > > invention. > > > > So there is nothing greedy about patents. > > > > Regards > > Craig > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > -- > Tom Barry trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.