[opendtv] Re: Global Cooling
- From: "Dale Kelly" <dalekelly@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:09:52 -0700
Correction: make that the "same months in 2002".
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>[mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dale Kelly
>Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:52 PM
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>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Global Cooling
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>
>> A bit of research shows significant disagreement about the ranking of
>> 2007 as warmest year. The year started out very warm, but finished
>> very cold setting numerous record low temps in November and December.
>
>The average of monthly global mean temperatures for 2007 makes it the
>hottest year. You can spin it anyway you like but the following NASA/NOAA
>data tells the story: Nov/Dec 2007 were only moderately cooler than the
>seven year average for the 2000s but they were significantly lower than
>those same months in 2003.
>
>Year Nov Dec J-D D-N DJF MAM JJA SON Year
>2001 75 63 57 54 45 53 57 61 2001
>2002 62 45 68 70 76 83 60 60 2002
>2003 59 76 67 64 64 64 62 69 2003
>2004 75 64 60 61 74 62 43 66 2004
>2005 76 72 76 76 77 76 68 82 2005
>2006 76 82 66 65 70 54 64 72 2006
>2007 65 61 73 75 89 74 65 70 2007
>2008 ******* ********* 43 54 54***** 2008
>
>I Agree that 2008 is trending cooler (than the hotest years in the 2000s)
>but one year does not prove a cooling cycle exists. However I do seriously
>hope that it does continues long term.
>
>> Here is a link to an opposing view:<
>
>How can there be an opposing view? Either disprove the 2007
>temperature data
>or lets change the subject.
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Craig Birkmaier
>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:21 AM
>> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Global Cooling
>>
>>
>> At 9:36 AM -0700 10/29/08, Dale Kelly wrote:
>> >Graig wrote:
>> >> Dale called upon NASA GISS data to support the global warming hoax.
>> >> Perhaps he missed this story:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aBBQO5XgLQu4&r
>> >
>> >Errors do occur occasionally, as you know, but this minor
>> correction to U.S.
>> >temperatures has little relevance to the NASA example, which was for
>> >*Global* mean temperatures.
>> >Also, the *latest* data shows the warmest year globally to be 2007.
>> >
>> >And, lastly, how does the current temperature in your small piece of the
>> >world impact the global reading?
>>
>> A bit of research shows significant disagreement about the ranking of
>> 2007 as warmest year. The year started out very warm, but finished
>> very cold setting numerous record low temps in November and December.
>>
>> A number of reports indicate that 2007 was the warmest for land
>> masses but much cooler over the oceans. Some reports say 2007 was the
>> coolest in this century. The vast majority of reports were
>> predictions, issued early in the year by the media. Here is a link to
>> an opposing view:
>>
>> http://motls.blogspot.com/2008/01/2007-warmest-year-on-record-cold
>est-in.html
>
>Whatever the reality, it is now clear that the planet is cooling, and
>that most of the computer models were wrong.
>
>Regards
>Craig
>
>As for our local temps, they correlate with the rest of the planet,
>which has clearly been cooling this year.
>
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