[opendtv] Re: Global Cooling
- From: "Dale Kelly" <dalekelly@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:51:53 -0700
> A bit of research shows significant disagreement about the ranking of
> 2007 as warmest year. The year started out very warm, but finished
> very cold setting numerous record low temps in November and December.
The average of monthly global mean temperatures for 2007 makes it the
hottest year. You can spin it anyway you like but the following NASA/NOAA
data tells the story: Nov/Dec 2007 were only moderately cooler than the
seven year average for the 2000s but they were significantly lower than
those same months in 2003.
Year Nov Dec J-D D-N DJF MAM JJA SON Year
2001 75 63 57 54 45 53 57 61 2001
2002 62 45 68 70 76 83 60 60 2002
2003 59 76 67 64 64 64 62 69 2003
2004 75 64 60 61 74 62 43 66 2004
2005 76 72 76 76 77 76 68 82 2005
2006 76 82 66 65 70 54 64 72 2006
2007 65 61 73 75 89 74 65 70 2007
2008 ******* ********* 43 54 54***** 2008
I Agree that 2008 is trending cooler (than the hotest years in the 2000s)
but one year does not prove a cooling cycle exists. However I do seriously
hope that it does continues long term.
> Here is a link to an opposing view:<
How can there be an opposing view? Either disprove the 2007 temperature data
or lets change the subject.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Craig Birkmaier
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:21 AM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Global Cooling
>
>
> At 9:36 AM -0700 10/29/08, Dale Kelly wrote:
> >Graig wrote:
> >> Dale called upon NASA GISS data to support the global warming hoax.
> >> Perhaps he missed this story:
> >>
> >> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aBBQO5XgLQu4&r
> >
> >Errors do occur occasionally, as you know, but this minor
> correction to U.S.
> >temperatures has little relevance to the NASA example, which was for
> >*Global* mean temperatures.
> >Also, the *latest* data shows the warmest year globally to be 2007.
> >
> >And, lastly, how does the current temperature in your small piece of the
> >world impact the global reading?
>
> A bit of research shows significant disagreement about the ranking of
> 2007 as warmest year. The year started out very warm, but finished
> very cold setting numerous record low temps in November and December.
>
> A number of reports indicate that 2007 was the warmest for land
> masses but much cooler over the oceans. Some reports say 2007 was the
> coolest in this century. The vast majority of reports were
> predictions, issued early in the year by the media. Here is a link to
> an opposing view:
>
> http://motls.blogspot.com/2008/01/2007-warmest-year-on-record-cold
est-in.html
Whatever the reality, it is now clear that the planet is cooling, and
that most of the computer models were wrong.
Regards
Craig
As for our local temps, they correlate with the rest of the planet,
which has clearly been cooling this year.
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