http://www.cultofmac.com/227694/cw-comes-to-apple-tv-as-first-network-to-offer-access-without-a-cable-subscription/ There you go. Maybe now you'll see what I was getting at. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.