if the flag rides on a last-minute bill this year or next, it in effect is dead, per Mr. Karmazin's arguments of several years back, since the installed base without the flag will be HUGE. :-) John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Birkmaier" <craig@xxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:48 AM Subject: [opendtv] Re: ATI: Consumers need to understand DRM > At 12:34 AM -0700 6/15/05, Kon Wilms wrote: > >ATI is going to 'educate' us? Drawing on their *cough* many years of > >expertise in the content protection industry, perhaps? The sheer > >audacity of that statement floors me. > > > >If you keep telling people the kool-aid is good, eventually they will > >start drinking it. > > Perhaps they believe they have no choice. Clearly, their graphics > boards are going to need to implement HDCP over DVI. The CE guys are > already deploying monitors and receivers with this technology, and > the cable and DBS industries are supporting HDCP for their STBs. > > I suspect that ATI is trying to get out in front of a thorny issue: > > Why is my ATI graphics card not working when when some "vidiot" has > screwed up and set the DVI content protection bit wrong? > > And don't think for a second that the Broadcast Flag is dead. It is > likely to reappear as a rider on a budget bill or something similar > in the next 12 months, just like the 85% rule that the NAB managed to > add to the 1997 budget bill. > > The politicians understand the tremendous leverage they have in > working with Hollywood to extend content management controls across > almost every device that can touch TV, movie and music bits. Thhere > little that the average citizen can do to stop them from extorting > more money from the content conglomerates in exchange for new > legislation to control our use of content anytime...everywhere. > > >There is no doubt in my mind ATI products are not in my future. > > > >Vote with your wallet. Not everyone wants a convergence computing device > >with some bullshit DRM chip or *cough*big brother*cough* content > >protection hook on it. > > It's not a question of what "WE" want. It's a question of what the > special interests can get from Congress in exchange for the money and > the political cover that they will provide. > > > > Bummer... > > > >Yeah, for them. Why is it that we just 'accept' these things as > >consumers? > > I'm not too sure that we are accepting all of this. One can make a > compelling argument that consumers are fighting back with "piracy," > which in my dictionary is the equivalent of "Fair Use," as opposed to > "content conglomerate abuse." > > The most effective way to fight back is to stop watching and buying > their content. The good news is that this IS happening. Movie theater > attendance is down; DVD sales are down; CD sales are down; broadcast > network ratings are down. > > > > >I realize that for the content protection industry to have a viable > >business model they must preach doom and gloom, loss or profits, > >industry collapse, yadda yadda, but really, come on, 99% of the viewers > >out there just aren't going to care to pirate 99% of the content out > >there - they just don't have the time or inclination. The other 1% will > >get around these DRM issues no matter what, ofcourse inconveniencing the > >rest with higher prices for hardware and more complex configurations. > > Apparently Kon is not affected by the reality distortion field that > the content industry and politicians have created. He is absolutely > correct... > > But this will not stop the content conglomerates and the politicians > from using piracy as the excuse to extend their control over digital > media content. > > Regaards > Craig > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.