Bert, The pseudo-training sequences created by A-VSB do not contain payload. The amount of payload lost by the Samsung/Rhode-Schwarz A-VSB method is more than the data 'loss' Sinclair used for DVB-T compared to ATSC during their 1999 Baltimore tests. Therefore, given the performance of those 1999 vintage DVB-T receivers compared to today's diversity DVB-T receivers, "almost as good" both in terms of spectral efficiency and C/N margins (under heavy multipath) is all you can ever hope for. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20060616 Free Friday Fragments (Mark's Monday Memo) > Obviously, John, none of this would be the least bit exciting if the end > result were not better than COFDM. The whole point of the exercise is to > be able to operate in severe multipath, even dynamic multipath, with > higher spectral efficiency and a lower C/N margin than alternatives. > > It wouldn't be nearly as much fun if all I was hoping for was "almost as > good as." > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.