[openbeosnetteam] Re: Few more things...

  • From: "David Reid" <dreid@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <openbeosnetteam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:12:40 -0000

>
> Hi all,

Hi.

>
> I'm just a lurker mainly. I don't do any direct networking, but I'm using
> BeOS as a server (diner, campus) and am working as a contributor on Themis
> (browser).
> Net_server currently sucks a bit for doing server stuff, so I'm hoping for
> a new network stack that will be better.

OK, we'd hope so...

>
> >
> >Just a few things that have made appearances in my scatter brain today...
> >
> >- we should have a split architecture, where the bare bones are in the
> >kernel (the really important stuff that needs to go like stink) and the
> >actual protocol stuff done in add-ons.
>
> Do you mean here that you want a userland network here, like net_server ?
> What is the general idea about that anyway ? Kernel level, or user level ?
> Also, I heard that the people behind the Mail Daemon Replacement wanted to
> do a network stack as well. Anybody heard anything on that ?

I think in any decent solution it'll be a hybrid, part kernel, part
userland.  The reason is that if we're wanting to take full advantage of
performance we need the "raw" layer to be in the kernel, but the higher
layer should really be userland so it can be updated and so on in an easier
manner.

I know the guys doing the mail kit and would hope that we can work something
out.  I really want to see us avoid duplicating effort on this.


> One last question: Themis needs an OpenSSL implementation that works with
> net_server. Is there such a thing or someone who can make it work ? I know
> this actually doesn't belong here, but you guys seem to know a lot about
> networking.

This should be a definite aim.  In fact for ssh/sshd openssl is kind of a
given, so maybe we should add it to the list.  I'd like to see us distribute
a version of openssl with the main os as so many people need it.  I know
there's a version that runs on bone.

david


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