[ola] Re: Student pushback and English use

  • From: Ruth Whalen Crockett <rwhalen@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ola@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ola@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 22:02:15 +0000

COlin,

I have been thinking a great deal about your questions and challenges. These 
aren’t uncommon ones, really something all of us face in our practice. One 
thing I want to encourage you to do is consider that all kids are different and 
their needs vary tremendously. Some respond to consequences, others are more 
motived by positive responses.  Others simply need to understand fully the 
goal.  How you vary your responses to children when they resort to English will 
depend on how well you understand your students as learners.  It is hard to 
figure out what motives each child. This is what makes teaching so very tricky.

I have attached a page from the Skillful Teacher.  It is a graphic I often 
share with teachers who want to talk about classroom discipline. The continuum 
is helpful as it helps teacher identify how their moves in the classroom are 
instrumental in eliciting the behavior and work they want from their students. 
What I often encourage my colleagues to do is try a bunch of different 
responses and take careful note of the results. The more I teach the more I 
realize that it is the smallest things that can change the entire demeanor and 
behavior of a class. I sometimes hear my students talking about getting “the 
look” from me. It took me years to develop “the look” and since starting OWL, I 
use it a lot less, but it happens to be my way of reminding kids that I expect 
better behavior.  Now I find myself using so much more praise and enthusiasm.  
At the end of the day this makes me feel like a much better teacher and human 
being.

Good luck.  Keep these interesting questions coming. This is at the heart of 
instructional practice.

Ruthie



On Nov 16, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Heidi Hewitt 
<heidihewitt13@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:heidihewitt13@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

At a workshop with Annie, she did a really cool thing to address English 
speakers. She would train the class to "ataca el inglés" (attack English), 
which ends up becoming just "ataca!" (with the action of course). I have been 
using it in my classes and it brings in a little bit of silliness rather than 
just yelling at them with "no inglés!" I've had to remind some classes that 
it's an imaginary attack as they really like to punch each other, oops!

Have you tried writing  E S P A Ñ O L on the board and erasing a letter from 
the end with each time English is heard? Then when the E is gone, dun dun 
dunnnnn - mystery consequence, "test", or something else. This was very 
effective in my problematic class last year.

Keep on keepin' on, this is a hard time of year for me too. Seems to always 
happen around this time. <3

On Friday, November 14, 2014, Colin Oriard 
<coriard@xxxxxxx<mailto:coriard@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

​Thanks Jonathan.  We also recite that poem very class and then go around 
thanking each other for being here...

What do you do when you hear English in the class? How do you address it?


Colin Oriard
Profesor de español 1/2 & 3/4
Grant High School
Room 112
Phone extension - 75612
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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:52 AM
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Subject: [ola] Re: Student pushback and English use

I teach a group of sophomores that at times can break into English.  I was 
worried about it yesterday because I gave them a good chunk of time to practice 
their Spanish plays.  I was thinking that 30 minutes of "alone" time would mean 
English, especially for one group.  At the start of class I tried to be as up 
front as possible.  Why do we speak in Spanish, why are we here?  We recited  
la ke'ch:
Tú eres mi otro yo.
You are my other me.
Si te hago daño a ti,
If I do harm to you,
Me hago daño a mi mismo.
I do harm to myself.
Si te amo y respeto,
If I love and respect you,
Me amo y respeto yo.
I love and respect myself.
We do this a lot but it is important to review.  So class went well and they 
maintained pretty good focus during the practice.  Students can handle high 
standards, they just need to be reminded of it from time to time.
Suerte,  El Jota

2014-11-14 6:33 GMT-08:00 Colin Oriard <coriard@xxxxxxx>:

Hi all,

Thank you to so many for writing me back with words of encouragement and ideas 
around my struggles.  I really appreciate it!

To further my reflective inquiry, I was wondering if more  people would be 
willing to weigh in how they handle English use in the classroom? Do you have 
consequences for English use? Is there a progression of consequences if it 
continues? Discipline is definitely not one of my strengths, and I had hoped 
that expressing the importance of the immersion environment and then giving 
reminders and call-outs when students use English would be enough, but it is 
not.  I need to tweak something.

I teach first and second year (NL-NH/IL) at a high school that is predominantly 
white (about 70%).  There is 33% poverty, internet access for about 90% of my 
students.

My tentative plan to implement starting next week is that when a student uses 
English, I will ask them to do 5 vocabulary words with the class to get them 
refocused on using Spanish, and then some class applause to appreciate their 
efforts.  Then I'm thinking that on a second offense, they will need to sit on 
the sidelines and answer 5 essay questions in English about our language 
learning environment to get them to reflect deeper on their choices in our 
class and hopefully get them to regulate themselves better.  Once they finish 
the 5 questions they can rejoin the group.  If they still can't participate 
according to the rules of the class I will give them a written activity to work 
on.

I'm very open to suggestions and improvements on all of this.  Absolutely every 
student has the right to learn, but I'm finding I need to draw the line when a 
student is taking away other student's rights to learn.

Any feedback on this, and how you handle English use would be greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks


Colin Oriard
Profesor de español 1/2 & 3/4
Grant High School
Room 112
Phone extension - 75612


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