[obol] Re: obol Digest V5 #84

From: "mcclellan@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <mcclellan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 06:50:43 +0000 (UTC)

Secretary
I would be very happy to fill in as secretary!!!    Jan is  great choice.
Thanks so much for working very hrd to find someone.    Marianne

    On Monday, March 14, 2016 10:07 PM, "obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

obol Digest    Monday, March 14 2016    Volume: 05  Issue: 084

In This Issue:
    #1:    From: Lee Cain <lcain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: [obol] More signs of spring
    #2:    From: Pamela Johnston <pamelaj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: [obol] Re: Hillsboro Scaup
    #3:    From: "Dennis Vroman" <dpvroman@xxxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: [obol] Re: Hillsboro Scaup
    #4:    From: Zia Fukuda <zialeefukuda@xxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: [obol] Last day to submit for March OBA Photo Contest!
    #5:    From: Stefan Schlick <greenfant@xxxxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: [obol] Re: Hillsboro Scaup
    #6:    From: Craig Miller <gismiller@xxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: [obol] Re: Hillsboro scaup
    #7:    From: Lars Per Norgren <larspernorgren@xxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: [obol] lesser thoughts on scaup
    #8:    From: Carolyn Amos <camospdx@xxxxxxxxx>
        Subject: [obol] EVENING GROSBEAKS
    #9:    From: Bigrocketman@xxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [obol] Greater White-fronted Geese on the Move

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Msg: #1 in digest
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:16:21 -0700
Subject: [obol] More signs of spring
From: Lee Cain <lcain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

While the Rufous Hummingbirds have yet to show, the TREE SWALLOWS are now
in Warrenton and Wireless Rd, where a lone adventuresome northerly TURKEY
VULTURE also tipped its wings past my truck today.
Lee Cain
Astori

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Lee Cain
Astoria

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Msg: #2 in digest
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 07:40:09 -0700
Subject: [obol] Re: Hillsboro Scaup
From: Pamela Johnston <pamelaj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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Msg: #3 in digest
From: "Dennis Vroman" <dpvroman@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [obol] Re: Hillsboro Scaup
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:19:35 -0700

In the Grants Pass/Cave Junction area, Greater Scaup can be found along the
deeper water sections of the Rogue River, but not in great numbers.  They turn
up in what you might consider small inland ponds at about the same numbers as
long the river.  The are not unusual on Lake Selmac where they seem to favor
the deep water near the face of the dam, which is perhaps the best location in
Josephine to see them (Lesser Scaup here too).  Lesser Scaup are more likely on
small-sized "farm" ponds.
Dennis (north of Grants Pass)
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Pamela Johnston
  To: andydfrank@xxxxxxxxx
  Cc: OBOL
  Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:40 AM
  Subject: [obol] Re: Hillsboro Scaup

  The factor Lars and Andy are illustrating is the size of the inland/fresh
water that Greater Scaup favor. Birds will do surprising things in a pinch, but
Greaters like larger surfaces overall. That doesn't mean that you won't see
them on canals along the Columbia.

  Pam Johnston

  On Mar 13, 2016 9:59 PM, Andy Frank <andydfrank@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    At Broughton Beach on the Columbia River in Multnomah County, Greater and
Lesser Scaup are present in nearly equal numbers.  I recall Shawneen Finnegan
and Dave Irons once took on the herculean task of counting all of the scaup
present one winter day.  I no longer recall the exact numbers but believe they
counted several thousand scaup and the ratio was somewhere near 60:40.  Perhaps
they, or someone else, can correct me or provide the actual numbers.

    But in certain inland places, Great Scaup are quite common.

    Andy Frank
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Msg: #4 in digest
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:28:01 -0700
Subject: [obol] Last day to submit for March OBA Photo Contest!
From: Zia Fukuda <zialeefukuda@xxxxxxxxx>

Hello all!
Just a quick reminder that today is the last day to submit your photo for
the March OBA photo contest. Please send your photos my way no later than
5:00 pm!
Speaking of this new-ish deadline, it's now up on the contest page, so
anyone missing my emails and only visiting the OBA site will be able to see
the addition. Head on over to the OBA website below to see the new details:
http://www.orbirds.org/photocontestrules.htm
<http://www.orbirds.org/photocontestrules.html>
As usual, I'll also post the rules and regulations below as well:

*Contest Rules*

*Contest submissions must be of wild birds only and while minor editing to
crop or adjust lighting are acceptable, photographs with major
modifications to the subject or background, or photo montages, will be
rejected by the contest moderator, whose decision is final.*

*You do not need to be an OBA member to submit a photo in the contest.*

*You do not need to be an OBA member to vote in the contest.*

*Submission period for photos will be the first two weeks of every month,
and must be received by our Contest Coordinator by 5 pm on the 14th day.
Submitted photos will then be posted here for people to vote on.*

*Once the voting is completed, the winning photo will be displayed as our
website home-page image for the following month.*

*Photographers may only submit one photo per contest (monthly).*

*Voters may only vote for one photo per contest (monthly).*

*Photo must have been taken in Oregon and within the current month or two
months prior. For example, only photos from March, April, and May will be
accepted for May's contest.*

*Please include the species name, location, date the photo was taken, and
your name and email address.*
*Submission period is the first two weeks of every month*

Thank you all, and I look forward to seeing some more great photos today!
Cheers,
Zia Fukuda

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Msg: #5 in digest
From: Stefan Schlick <greenfant@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [obol] Re: Hillsboro Scaup
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 12:23:59 -0400

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Msg: #6 in digest
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 10:33:23 -0700
Subject: [obol] Re: Hillsboro scaup
From: Craig Miller <gismiller@xxxxxxxxx>

Sometimes hundreds of Greater Scaup gather at Wickiup Reservoir in the
early spring. Otherwise they are quite rare in Central Oregon.
Craig Miller
On Mar 13, 2016 10:00 PM, "Lars Per Norgren" <larspernorgren@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I once saw thirty or more Greaters on Kirk Pond during spring break. i
thought it was an artifact of migration. Then there are the thousands on
the Columbia River, but I think of that as deep water. Lars
On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Alan Contreras wrote:

Tim's statement about scaup abundance is more true in the north valley

and less true in Lane County, perhaps owing to the draw of Fern Ridge
Reservoir. Greater Scaup is regular on Kirk Pond below Fern Ridge Dam and
also on the Willamette River at Eugene. Lesser is more common but small
flocks of Greater do occur. Greaters seem to need "larger water" than do
Lesser.

What's the scaup situation at Hagg Lake?

Alan Contreras
Eugene, Oregon

acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Tim Janzen <tjanzen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear Lars,
You are absolutely correct that the default scaup in shallow fresh

water in

western Oregon in winter is the Lesser Scaup.  I would say that in

Clackamas

County, I probably have seen 1000 Lesser Scaups for every Greater Scaup

I

have seen.  ID can sometimes be a little challenging if the scaups are a
long ways away or if the scaups are actively diving, but in any case a
Greater Scaup is definitely a rare bird in the Willamette Valley.  They

are

much less common in the Willamette Valley than Eurasian Wigeons are.
Sincerely,
Tim Janzen

-----Original Message-----
From: obol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:obol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On

Behalf

Of Lars Per Norgren
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:28 PM
To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [obol] Hillsboro scaup

Nagi, your picture shows a classic Lesser Scaup, no ambiguity about it.

When

my dad hunted scaup on Long Island Sound the Connecticut Fish and Game
employee used the measure of nail width on bills to distinguish the two
species, but he was using calipers. This scaup is alive and well, so its
head profile affords a good ID: somewhat flattish top to head, decided
crested look at the nape. Greater Scaup typically have a smooth curve

there

at the nape, with possibly a slight angular break in that curve of the
profile nearer the top of the head.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong folks, but isn't the default scaup in
shallow fresh water in western Oregon in winter the Lesser? And winter

scaup

on salt water in winter are typically Greaters in Oregon. I think the

Coos

Bay CBC got one Lesser this year and it was in a pond in a city park.
Visitors to the Philomath Sewage Ponds this winter have occasionally
scrounged up one or two Greaters among the scores of Lesser Scaup. The

head

shape works to ID female scaup as well. It is fraught with challenges,

as

shown in Sibley. Ducks just before or after diving, when preening, what

have

you, do all kinds of things with their head feathers that can change the
profile in amazing ways. Scaup go through a highly uncoordinated molt.

I've

seen birds throughout the winter that are way ahead or behind their

fellows

in the succession from eclipse to full breeding plumage.
    That's why I say your picture shows a classic individual. A soft

field

mark for sure, but the others that come to mind are less useful.

  LarsPOST:

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Msg: #7 in digest
From: Lars Per Norgren <larspernorgren@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [obol] lesser thoughts on scaup
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 10:36:55 -0700

night. Probably more than I've ever seen there before, probably more than any
other species of duck. When my parents were active birdwatchers there was an
idea in circulation that Lesser Scaup had a purple sheen to the head and
Greaters a green. This may have carried over to field guides in my early days
as a birder. I put my scope together and checked quite a few scaup. All the
males that showed any color to the head looked green and they were all Lessers.
The color is iridescence and thus subject to angle of the sun, angle of the
viewer. Anyone who has looked at a hummingbird for part of a minute has
experienced this. The red gorget becomes black or violet when the bird's head
moves.
    The light was poor. The final hour of daylight with a heavy cloud cover, I
had waited in the car for quite awhile, contemplating leaving the scope in
pieces because it was raining. The scaup in Nagi's photo has a nice purple
sheen to the head. It could have come straight off the page of the Golden Field
Guide. But with only a little patience I bet the same bird could have shown a
green head. I once made a fabulous road trip with a truly veteran birder. He
had seen Bachman's Warbler as a living, breathing bird in the bush, not just a
cabinet specimen. He and his wife had made multiple summer drives across the
continent when the roads were gravel and dirt. He rarely stopped talking from
Spring Valley, New York to Marathon, Florida. And in those five days I never
got tired of him. I wish I'd taken notes because of course I've forgotten most
of it, and I realize now that much of what I'd heard from Harold Axtel hadn't
been heard by others.
      We got down to Cape Canaveral/Merritt Island in central Florida and spent
the night. It was about the last year there were Dusky Seaside Sparrows lurking
in the marshes there, but Harold declined the proposal to get up and go seek
them at dawn. He knew the spot well and we would be looking into the sun,
perhaps next to heavy traffic. We ended up cruising some residential areas
where I saw my first Florida Jays. Then to a narrow muddy shore of some
uninspiring body of water where I saw my first, and forty years later still my
only, Wilson's Plover. And there, a few meters off the shore from the plover,
looking every bit as grungy as the mud they were standing on, was a scaup.
      This was the month of May and scaup didn't really belong in Florida.
Without ever putting the duck in view of his binocular, certainly without a
backward glance as he drove on northwards, Harold said "Lesser." It was
delivered with the detached conviction I expect from someone if I were to ask
"Are you left or right handed?" I was about eighteen. The incredulity this
inspired in me was intense, but I'm pretty sure I kept it hidden. This dude had
to be engaged in magical thinking.
    "How do you know it's a Lesser?"
    "It had a small head." The skepticism seeping out of every pore in my body
must have thickened the atmosphere in the car to the point it could be cut with
a plastic knife. "You'd be able to tell if you'd looked at as many scaup as I
have." I was far from impressed. Funny that we devoted far more energy on the
scaup than the Wilson's Plover, and four decades later I do so again. Driving
into the Philomath Sewage lagoons Friday a week ago I saw a female scaup. I was
at the far se corner and she was pretty much the first bird I saw. "Gee, that
looks like a Greater," I thought , and rolled down the window. Through the
binocular I got a better look, and felt confident it was a Greater. Yesterday,
Sunday, ten days later, she was still in that southern pond, not with the other
scaup. But I had just spent as long as I could stand scanning multiple flocks
of Lesser Scaup. I got out of the car and got out the scope. I'm sure she's the
same duck as before. But I'm not as sure she's
  a Greater. More than anything, it's the big head that got my attention as I
crested the dike last week.
      I don't consider myself to have looked at enough scaup yet. I don't know
if I'll ever look at enough. It would have been a lot more fun last night if
all the scaup I looked at had been immature gulls. But I bet she'll stay there
a few more days if someone else wants to take a look. Maybe a photo, that could
be shared on Obol, then folks can decide whose head is bigger, mine or the
bird's?
Lars

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Msg: #8 in digest
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:00:06 -0700
Subject: [obol] EVENING GROSBEAKS
From: Carolyn Amos <camospdx@xxxxxxxxx>

We've been having regular daily visits from EVENING GROSBEAKS, in flocks as
high as 35-40, since Wednesday last week.  They come through about every
two hours all day, and stay for about 10 mins before moving on.  Fun to see
again this year.  We had CEDAR WAXWINGS too, but since they cleared the
berries from our bushes they haven't been back.  We are in Forest Grove
near Pacific University.
Good birding
Carolyn Storey

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Msg: #9 in digest
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 04:25:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bigrocketman@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [obol] Greater White-fronted Geese on the Move

At this moment, 9:20 pm, 3/14/16, there are several large flocks of Greater
White-fronted Geese heading north, over the Eugene area. Here's a link to a
video I took of them three years ago, going over in the late afternoon, about
two miles high. https://vimeo.com/64702025

Steve McDonald

http://www.ipernity.com/home/305883
http://flickr.com/photos/22121562@N00/
http://www.vimeo.com/user458315/videos
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=229807ce52dd4fe0

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