[obol] Re: curmudgeonly engineered CBCs

  • From: Roy Lowe <roy.loweiii@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx" <acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 21:22:38 -0800

And it's the largest winter area for American coots on the Oregon coast.

Roy

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> On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Alan Contreras <acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Well, what little oxygen there is here is busy precipitating.  It's 1
> above with light snow.  You can almost hear the oxygen tinkling on impact.
> Ravens have eaten most of the rest of it.
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> This winter I will organize a winter bird count of the Siltcoos Lake and
> river drainage.  It's stuffed with birds and won't ever be in a CBC circle
> because it has Florence a mile north and next year will have the new
> Reedsport count a mile south.  Yet it has the largest collection of
> waterfowl, especially diving ducks, between Yaquina Bay and the Umpqua -
> far more than are actually IN the Florence CBC circle. It is also a major
> wintering area for Pied-billed Grebes.
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> -- 
> Alan Contreras
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> acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx
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> Eugene, Oregon
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>> On 12/5/13 9:27 PM, "Lars Per Norgren" <larspernorgren@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> ******            
>>                       ))))))))
>>    Is it the high altitude, oxygen deprivation? The Curmudgeon is
>> disturbingly reminiscent of Pollyanna tonight. In 1977 my friend Julio
>> told me that CBCs are not winter counts, but late autumn samples. Then
>> someone named Joel Geier brought up the same thing a year or two ago,
>> proposing applying the CBC protocol in January or February to generate
>> some real winter data. Many people opined that mobilizing sufficient
>> talent at another date just wasn't going to happen.
>> I have long fretted about this and that aspect of Christmas, as nearly
>> everyone does. But the very existence of CBCs makes me look forward to
>> Christmas year after year. As a minor without car or driver's license I
>> never got to go on more than two CBCs a year. Last year I did four, a
>> record for me, and I wouldn't have minded more. It well may be my all
>> time favorite peculiarity of American culture.
>>    I went through a 25 year hiatus with CBCs. When I returned I found
>> them vastly improved. The species totals for counts in populous parts of
>> western Oregon have gone up 20-30%. I think much of the charm of the
>> counts is the very limitations Alan mentions. The arbitrary nature of the
>> circle, the mixture of habitats within assigned areas of that circle,
>> provide a blend of structure and challenges that give me a satisfaction I
>> don't think is available otherwise.  There is enormous cultural momentum
>> to the CBC. I can't imagine any of it can be transferred. On the other
>> hand, the Great Backyard Bird Count had impressive participation
>> WORLDWIDE last year. Keep thinking out loud, Big Al.
>> Lars     
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