While this bird may very well be in it's hatch year, use of the term "juvenile" should be reserved for individuals that are still in juvenile/juvenal plumage. This is the first complete set of feathers acquired after hatching and is only retained for a couple of months in Passerines Most songbirds go through a preformative molt before ever leaving the nesting grounds or shortly thereafter. By September or early October they will have replaced virtually all of their juvenile head and body feathers, with only flight and tail feathers retained. I can't tell looking at this image on my phone, but if it is a hatch year bird we should be able to see some molt limits in the wings. Dave Irons Portland, OR Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2013, at 3:17 PM, "Tim Janzen" <tjanzen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear Barbara, > It looks like a juvenile Savannah Sparrow to me. > Sincerely, > Tim Janzen > > From: obol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:obol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Barbara Combs > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:07 PM > To: Oregon Birders OnLine > Subject: [obol] Sparrow ID > > I have my own idea of what this sparrow might be. It was the smallest > sparrow in my yard this morning. It stayed for maybe 5 minutes. Other > sparrows were Fox, Song, Golden-crowned, White-crowned, and White-throated. > (Also juncos and towhees) I am interested in the opinions of others as to > the identity of this bird. It was very pale, which perhaps doesn't come > through as well as I would have hoped on the photo. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/91796219@N07/11441723405/ > > -- > Barbara Combs obie '70 > Lane County, OR