[obol] *Re: Re: Possible seabird at mouth of Deschutes River

From: Range Bayer <range.bayer@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Nels Nelson <nelsnelson7@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:13:26 -0700
Hi Nels,

Thanks for your message.  Perhaps the texter was riding as a
passenger, but Shawneen wrote " I received several text messages from
Suzy Murphy about a bird seen while driving 65 MPH."

Shawneen later wrote: "She has been driving a long time"

When I am a passenger in a vehicle, I do not say I have been driving
and don't think of myself as driving.  When I talk about others
driving, the only person I refer to as driving is the driver.  Perhaps
others include being a passenger when they use "while driving" or to a
person "has been driving."  You are correct, the text that Shawneen
quotes from the texter does not indicate that the texter texts that
she was driving or was riding.

You are right, I jumped to a conclusion that the texter was driving; I
apologize for not making it clear in my email that it is not clear in
Shawneen's email if the texter was driving or riding, and that
hopefully the texter was riding because there is a safety concern with
texting while driving.

Thanks for your comments.

Range Bayer, Newport, Oregon


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Nels Nelson <nelsnelson7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi RB,
>
> Haven't met you yet and don't mean to pick a fight, but there is ZERO
> evidence in Suzy's
> or Shawneen's emails or texts saying they wrote or sent the texts WHILE
> DRIVING.
> She SAW THE BIRD while driving, as I (and I assume you) and all of us
> birders have
> at one time or another.
>
> I'm with you 100% in your thinking and comments about thoughtless,
> inconsiderate
> and outright DANGEROUS drivers that mess with their electronic gadgets,
> keypads
> and text while driving.  They ought to make the fines high enough that
> drivers
> wouldn't even THINK about writing or sending a text while driving a vehicle.
>
> Jumping to conclusions is another matter.
>
> Happy Birding,
>
> Nels Nelson
> (Hillsboro Birder, retired after 30+ years in law enforcement)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Range Bayer <range.bayer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Hmmm, I have almost been hit several times by distracted drivers using
>> electronic devices, and it is illegal now to do so  in Oregon with the
>> exception of police, emergency responders and drivers in emergency
>> situations (http://www.drivinglaws.org/oregon.php).  Texting while
>> driving 65 mph and  pulling a camper...
>>
>> Range Bayer
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Shawneen <shawneenfinnegan@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > For anyone birding near the Deschutes River.  I received several text
>> > messages from Suzy Murphy about a bird seen while driving 65 MPH.
>> >
>> >
>> > " Just saw at mouth of Deschutes river fly over to the columbia at 65
>> > miles
>> > per hour. What looked like a sea bird. Long thin wings black and white
>> > pattern light underbelly, with longish white streamiing tail feathers.
>> > Can't
>> > stop hauling a camper. If someone close maybe they can check it out.
>> >
>> > Thanks,Suzy Murphy"
>> >
>> >
>> > "It's was the tail feathers. I'm no seabird expert, but those were the
>> > longest streamers I have seen , like LT Jaeger. Got a 2 second look. My
>> > impression was the wings had sharp contrast b/w, much more black, like
>> > whole
>> > trailing edge."
>> >
>> >
>> > She has been driving a long time and NOW, I have been driving for 8 days
>> > and
>> > no references to check at present.
>> >
>> >
>> > lt was flying north across the Columbia River towards Washington.
>> >
>> >
>> > Shawneen Finnegan
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
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