I think that this is definitely an irruption year, at least locally in Oregon. I would also say that I feel that Pine Grosbeaks are uncommon in the state and rare in Cascades. I'm sure there are other spots, but the most reliable places for me have been Anthony Lakes and McCully Creek. As far as the irruption goes, there were a number of birds in odd places. These are only from OBOL. I'm sure there are more records in eBird, especially in the queue of sightings to be reviewed. NOVEMBER Harney County -Tim Blount found one in downtown Burns Deschutes County - Will Hemstrom had a heard-only bird in La Pine Benton County - Doug Robinson had the cooperative birds on Marys Peak Umatilla County - Bill Bradford had a bird in McNary (unusual down on the river) DECEMBER Josephine County - Russ Namitz found 6 on Grayback Mountain (1st county record) Jackson County - Russ Namitz found 1 south of Crater Lake NP just inside county line Benton County - continuing birds on Marys Peak JANUARY Wallowa County - Khanh Tran found birds at McCully Creek (pretty reliable site) Jackson County - Norm Barrett found small flock on Mt Ashland Lane County - Linda Gilbert found a bird above McKenzie Ranger Station (Foley Ridge) FEBRUARY Douglas County - Matt Hunter found a couple birds above Diamond Lake Deschutes County - Jake Schas found the large flock along the PCT on Santiam Pass Klamath County - Julie Van Moorhem found small flock south of Lake of the Woods Benton County - Bill Proebsting found a flock of six in Corvallis Jefferson County - Chuck Gates found small flock east of PCT (presumably same loose group) MARCH Deschutes County - continuing birds on Santiam Pass, Russ Namitz found 1 bird at Mt Bachleor Lane County - Tom Mickel heard a bird at Gold Lake (near Waldo Lake) As to the cause of these wanderings, I'm sure there is more than one answer. The lack of food and/or availability of food certainly come to mind. Also, there was a coastal sighting in Neah Bay, WA back when the Northern Hobby was sighted. I would say that sighting was unusual for Washington. I know there are birds outside of Reno, NV right now, but other than that I haven't monitored other state listservs. Good birding, Russ Namitz Medford, OR OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx