Owen et al. Owen wrote: I"ve already heard from the USGS bird banding office. The 3 birds we photographed on 13 March 2015 at Ankeny NWR (Marion County, Oregon) were 1, 2 and 3 years old, 2 females and a male, all banded in western Alaska by Melissa L. Gabrielson (famous last name). The USGS did not specify subspecies, as to whether they were minima. Photos and more details here: http://oschmidt.net/OwenLSchmidtLLC/MINIMA.html All of these birds appear to be B. h. minima. Only one of the birds in your set of photos appears to be in active molt. First winter birds go through a somewhat protracted molt on the wintering grounds and at this season their underparts have the look of a snake that has shed part of its skin. The juvenile body feathers are small and rounded and in fall the hatch-year birds look very scaly. They also are more brownish on the head and neck, not black like an adult. As they start acquiring second-generation body feathers they can look a bit patchy or disheveled. The second-generation feathers are darker, larger, broader, and more squared-off at the tip. Once fully in, then tend to give the body a more barred look that results from square tips of the feathers lining up. In looking at the dates associated with the neck-collared birds you photographed, the youngest bird, "P@N," would be most accurately referred to as an "after second-year" bird (ASY in bandingese). Regardless of hatch date, a bird's "first" or "hatch-year" ends on 31 December of the year that it hatched. On 1 January 2014 this bird would have been referred to as after hatch-year (AHY), or more accurately a second-year (SY) since the approximate hatch date is known (these birds are banded and collared on the breeding grounds). "P@N's" second year ended on 31 December 2014 and on 1 January of this year (2015) it became an after second-year (ASY). I know it seems strange to think of it this way when the bird only hatched about 20 months ago. In most cases the hatch date is not known and can only be approximated based on feather age and other aging criteria. To keep it simple the calendar dates are used to calculate years. Looking closely at your top photo (with four birds), the far right bird appears to be an SY (hatched in 2014). If you look at the belly, you can see the patchy area with paler scaly-looking feathers well down on the belly. The darker feathers with pale edges are the new second-generation feathers that are growing in. Note also that the neck sock and head of this bird has a bit of a brownish cast to it. Compare its overall plumage to the bird immediately in front of it, which has a much neater and matched looking set of feathers. Either this bird is the same age and has already completed its molt or it is older (ASY). I would guess the latter, as it shows no evidence of molt and the the head and neck sock seem a little blacker to my eye. A few years ago, I put together a gallery (link below) of Ridgway's (minima) Cackling Goose photos taken in the fall. The gallery includes some shots of HY birds that are still entirely scaly, before the mid-winter preformative molt started. All of the adults are pristine condition, having just completed a prebasic molt before leaving the breeding grounds. Based on my observations, it seems that only the first-winter HY/SY birds have this protracted midwinter molt on the wintering grounds. They migrate in juvenile plumage and then molt on the wintering grounds. After second-year (ASY) and older birds have but a single annual molt that occurs before they leave the breeding grounds each year. They arrive on the wintering grounds with a brand new set of feathers and look the same throughout the winter. http://www.birdfellow.com/photos/gallery/315-ridgways-cackling-goose-variation Dave Irons