How about a descriptive name like gray jay!
Roy Lowe
Waldport, OR
On Aug 10, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Alan Contreras <acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Untrustworthy Jay?
Alan Contreras
Eugene, Oregon
acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx
www.alanlcontreras.com
On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Robert O'Brien <baro@xxxxxxx> wrote:I'm going to reserve judgment on the hummingbird given the current status
of the word alien.
However I strongly object to the name Camp Robber. In the long history of
our country we have always conformed to the concept that an accused is
considered innocent unless duly convicted. This of course applies to birds
as well. In all of our ornithological history no bird has ever been
convicted by a court of his peers of anything. I might be comfortable with
the name Alleged Camp Robber but I'll have to give it some thought including
where to place the hyphen.
Bob O'Brien Carver Oregon
On Monday, August 10, 2020, Alan Contreras <acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’m with you on Alien’s Hummingbird for sure. We may eventually have
doubts about Canada Jay and can revert to Camp Robber.
Alan Contreras
acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx
Eugene, Oregon
www.alanlcontreras.com
On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Wayne Hoffman <whoffman@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here is a different perspectiyve. The article about Thick-billed Longspur
made brief reference to a move to replace patronyms in general. I think
this is a great idea, for reasons unrelated to the behavior, appreciated
or deplored, of the honored. I will be happy to see new names for
Audubon's gaggle of namesakes, ditto Bachman, Baird, Blackburn, Cassin,
Clark, Cooper, Franklin, Lawrence, Lewis, Lincoln, Lucy, Ross, Steller,
Swainson, Wilson, and all the rest. Some of these were definitely shady
characters, but others may have been above reproach, for all I know. But
it would be better to name birds for features of their appearance,
habitat, range, etc. I preferred Pileolated Warbler to Wilson's,
And anyway, the rules of scientific nomenclature will assure that most of
these will retain their Latinized patronyms, and Clark and Lewis, among
others, will still retain their generic accolades.
It would be great, but I suppose unlikely, if the NACC and other powers
that be, would set up a public process to collect nominations for new
names to replace patronyms.
I think a lot of people could have fun with that. For example, attempts
at minimal changes to names might yield Stellar Jay, Rosy Gull, Alien's
Hummingbird etc.
Wayne
From: "Lars Per Norgren" <larspernorgren@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "rriparia" <rriparia@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "obol" <obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 3:43:20 PM
Subject: [obol] Re: McCown’s Longspur renamed Thick-billed Longspur -
BirdWatching
Pathetic beyond description. None of these guys would spend a night in
jail for a cause they profess to support. If they want to rewrite or erase
history why not go after FDR who deported 1 million Mexicans, 500,000 of
them US citizens. FDR who imprisoned 10s of thousands of Issei, Nissei,
and Sansei , all of them intensely loyal to our country and many of them
citizens by birth. One quarter of my hometown spent the summer of 1942 in
10×10 plywood cubicles at the Portland Expo center, a placed designed for
cattle.
Of course it's ludicrous to name places in nature, let alone entire
taxa, after dead White men. But now Corvallis School District is renaming
Hoover School. Presumably the board is oblivious to the years Herbert
spent administering famine relief in Ukraine. He saved thousands of lives.
Focusing attention on some utterly obscure officer in the Confederate Army
doesn't promote social justice. It isn't forward looking or even engaged
in the present. It's just a watered down act of cultural appropriation
that diminishes the truly important. Honkies get a life!
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From: rriparia@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 8/10/20 12:27 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [obol] McCown’s Longspur renamed Thick-billed Longspur -
BirdWatching
OBOL,
I'm forwarding this link to OBOL, after seeing it posted to CALBIRDS by
Steve Summers. Interesting article, and movement.
I'm posting it for your own information, and not to start a discussion
about it. There are links within the article to gain more insight.
Kevin Spencer
Klamath Falls, OR
https://www.birdwatchingdaily.com/news/science/mccowns-longspur-renamed-thick-billed-longspur/
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