Thanks all for your good comments. Keep watching your Hermits. Actually, also your Townsend's. Especially birds with limited to no streaking and gray tones on crown/back. See Steve Mlodinow's 4 pictures starting here for an example: https://www.flickr.com/photos/36088296@N08/6324886934/. Stefan SchlickHillsboro, OR From: greenfant@xxxxxxxxxxx To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [obol] Heto Warblers in Oregon: Why aren't there more reports? Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 00:16:10 -0400 Townsend's Warbler does NOT breed in the OR Coast Range, so all high elevation "dendroica" (now "setophaga") are Hermits. The OR Cascades host both. I've always wondered why there are no reports of hybrid Hermit warblers from Oregon. [Btw, Heto warbler refers to Hermit x Townsend's Warbler hybrids]. Partly, this has to do with that it's just not on the Oregon birder's radar to look for appropriate field marks. These birds do come through Oregon, but there may not be a hybridization zone in OR. There are 2 hybridization zones in WA state, one in the southern Cascades near Packwood, the other in the SE Olympics. In terms of song, one should not rely on songs with respect to hybrids. I've personally heard a classic Hermit song, yet when I got a glimpse, it was an obvious hybrid. I have heard tweener songs in both Mason and Jefferson County in WA state, where the bird ended up being the expected hybrid. I've also seen pure Hermit in both counties. So, please inspect your local Hermits for aspects of hybridization. The 3 best field marks are: -Yellow on the breast: A Hermit with yellow on the breast is not pure-Black streaking on the flanks: Should be very limited to nil on Hermit-Back color: Gray on Hermit, green on Townsend's Stefan SchlickHillsboro, OR