for nearly 20 years I have hunted chukars on two big ranches in Gilliam County, one west of Condon, the other south of Condon; both have significant, lengthy tribs to the lower John Day and both have extensive canyon networks. Each year I go over there in late spring/early summer to repay the ranchers for their kindness and I spend plenty of time photographing birds in those canyons. Based on my observation, Darrel is correct when he says "I can state unequivocally that chats are not at all difficult to find there, and are undoubtedly a breeding species. I would rate them as close to common, if somewhat scattered." The problem is that much/most of the county's prime chat habitat is on private ranches with no public access--which like introduces a sampling error in chat observations--you can't see them if you can't get them. But because of the access I've been fortunate to enjoy, I've found chats everywhere I've expected to find them and even, as Darrel says, in brushy upland canyons (usually those with springs), including small brushy slot canyons with springs. John Shewey, www.birdingoregon.com OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx