[obol] Re: About not reporting a bird on a birding list
- From: Lars Per Norgren <larspernorgren@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:20:23 -0800
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My Dad and I encountered just such a person about 1978. He came from
Mississippi or Alabama for the express purpose of bagging a Harlequin Duck and
or Goldeneye (both species, please). There are only 200 Harlequins wintering in
Oregon, and they show great site fidelity, so one might imagine them to be very
vulnerable. On the other hand, most of the sites they frequent are off limits
to hunting. Lars
On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Alan Contreras wrote:
> ODFW asked me some years ago not to post specific locations for Harlequin
> Ducks because they, at the time, had a problem with people going out in small
> boats and shooting them as trophies. Weird. That's not even "hunting."
>
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> Alan Contreras
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> acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx
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> Eugene, Oregon
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> From: Tim Rodenkirk <garbledmodwit@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: Tim Rodenkirk <garbledmodwit@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:30 PM
> To: Brandon Green <brandon.green18@xxxxxxxxx>, OBOL <obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [obol] Re: About not reporting a bird on a birding list
>
> Hi Brandon et al.
>
> Just a word of note, at least for rare waterfowl. OBOL is routinely
> monitored by trophy duck hunters. What is a trophy duck hunter? It is
> basically a hunter that likes to harvest rare waterfowl, including
> interesting hybrid ducks which they like to mount. A for instance, a male
> Barrow's Goldeneye (rare around here) found on the Coos Bay CBC a few years
> back was harvested within a week of being found and announced on OBOL. I
> heard about it through the local grapevine which was fortunate, so I didn't
> spend all winter trying to relocate it. Actually, most trophy duck hunters
> usually know about interesting ducks way before birders do, and most do not
> trust birders in general, so locations of such birds are not shared with
> birders.
>
> Not a problem with Burrowing Owls of course, but nonetheless of interest to
> some maybe.
>
> Happing CBCing all,
> Tim R
> Coos Bay
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> On Monday, December 30, 2013 10:35 AM, Brandon Green
> <brandon.green18@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm dismayed to see Stephanie's very reasonable request for photographers to
> give the Linn County Burrowing Owl a little space morph into a "Whaddya mean
> we can't post bird sightings on OBOL?!" post. Yes, you can post bird
> sightings and directions on OBOL. The OBOL Guidelines clearly encourage this
> ("Give directions to notable birds.")
>
> http://www.orbirds.org/obolguidelines.html
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> And while Paul is absolutely correct that Rich's post was appropriate and
> that he has nothing to apologize for, there's a glaring lack of attention to
> the gray area in this discussion. No sane birder would object to somebody
> reporting a vagrant warbler at a suet feeder in a public area. However, for
> obvious reasons, one would incur the wrath of many by posting detailed
> directions to an active Spotted Owl nest. A nuanced discussion of this topic
> would account for the fact that some species are more sensitive to human
> activity and/or are in more sensitive situations than others.
>
> OBOL's "membership" are *not* the only ones who have access to the
> information posted here. OBOL posts are available to the general public via
> the ABA web site and via the archive page on the OBA web site. Thus, all
> OBOL posts are available for public consumption. One can debate how often
> the general public reads OBOL but, if I were a non-birder with a vested
> interest in locating rare birds, it wouldn't take me long to find OBOL.
>
> While I do not begrudge those who post directions to the roosts/nests of
> sensitive species, my personal feeling is that it may be best to first post
> the general location and then invite interested parties to e-mail for
> detailed directions. That way, you have some control over the information.
>
> Just my $0.02.
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> Brandon
> Eugene
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