[oaktable] Re: Freelists Test

  • From: Christian Antognini <Christian.Antognini@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 17:07:05 +0000

Public history - definitely not.
Private history - would be nice, but not a showstopper.

Fully agree with that.

Do we just need someone to host a private listserv? I might be able to do 
that...

FWIW, with my hosting contract I can create 
Mailman<https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html> lists. I’m already 
managing 15 of them for a NGO I’m supporting. I wouldn’t mind to manage an 
additional one.

From: oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf 
Of Dan Norris
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:55 PM
To: oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [oaktable] Re: Freelists Test

I submit that public history may kill the spirit of the list. Speaking for 
myself, I wouldn't feel comfortable posting some questions on the list with a 
public archive where I would gladly post those to the group if archives were 
not public.

Do we just need someone to host a private listserv? I might be able to do 
that...

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 10:18 AM Jonathan Lewis 
<jlewisoracle@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jlewisoracle@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Public history - definitely not.
Private history - would be nice, but not a showstopper.

Regards
Jonathan Lewis


On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 16:12, Kurt Van Meerbeeck 
<Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx<mailto:Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx>> wrote:
Yes – a simple mailforward won’t do that … just thinking here because a public 
history is not something I’m thrilled about…

cheers
K

From: oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> On Behalf 
Of James Morle
Sent: woensdag 4 november 2020 17:08
To: oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [oaktable] Re: Freelists Test

The important aspects of this change are as follows:
- more community control - the current GMail approach requires one of the few 
with admin access to manually go in and add/remove/update email addresses. We 
need more self-service.
- it needs to work for the ~50% of the group that don't want to use FB, which 
would solve all this easily if that were acceptable to folks ;)
- I think there *is* a desire to be able to access historical threads, just not 
by the general public!

I would doubt that a simple mail forward would give us what we need, but I 
defer to the group for discussion.
Cheers

James

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:53 AM Kurt Van Meerbeeck 
<Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx<mailto:Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx>> wrote:
James – just an idea … I’m using 
gandi.net<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgandi.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cchristian.antognini%40trivadis.com%7C557ad619abf142499b5f08d880e25e0e%7Cfe8f2b6f52c6436db363ddd6dafc103a%7C0%7C1%7C637401057027261116%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=bkm9UTNhy8IsYriu6YczuHNN0x20cf3o2AsKQ6y43HU%3D&reserved=0>
 as dns – I can create mailforwards … maybe a mailforward is all we need (ex 
list42@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:list42@xxxxxxxxxx> -> all mail addresses)
Not sure about the limitations of this 😉

From: oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> On Behalf 
Of James Morle
Sent: woensdag 4 november 2020 16:38
To: oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [oaktable] Re: Freelists Test

This is, indeed, the significant downside of this approach. If anyone knows if 
there is a way to lockdown the messages then please let me know.
The Facebook Group wouldn't have had that problem... just sayin'!

James

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 6:39 AM Kurt Van Meerbeeck 
<Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx<mailto:Kurt.Van.Meerbeeck@xxxxxx>> wrote:
so our mailings are public ?


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From: oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> On Behalf 
Of Jonathan Lewis
Sent: woensdag 4 november 2020 13:34
To: oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oaktable@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [oaktable] Re: Freelists Test

For those not familiar with freelists (? anyone ?) there is an automatic 
archive by month of all messages: 
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Regards
Jonathan Lewis


On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 12:29, Arup Nanda 
<arup1111@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:arup1111@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Message received. Thanks for setting it up, James.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 5:02 PM James Morle 
<james@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:james@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Uh, hello? Is this thing on?

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Thanks and regards.

Arup Nanda

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