[ncsc-moths] Re: Watauga County, NC Moths--1 September 2011
- From: Jackie Nelson <ephemeropterae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:03:20 -0400
Thanks, Merrill. Always happy to learn something new from good sources.
Jackie
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:55 PM, J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Thanks, Jackie. The Forbes (Lepidoptera of New York) key separates the two
> by the following: "pm line located far toward margin, its lower 3/5 nearly
> straight...arctivorens" vs. "pm line located hardly beyond second third of
> wing, regularly sinuous...baptisiae". Based on that distinction, I think
> you have correctly identified your moths; clearly the one on the right has a
> pm line much closer to the base of the wing than the left image. Harder to
> tell about the sinuousity of the pm line due to reflection on the left
> image.
>
> Merrill
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Jackie Nelson
> <ephemeropterae@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Merrill,
>> I had to look twice at my photos of P. baptisiae and artivorens again.
>> They are more similar than I thought, but when I found them, the IDs made
>> sense. I do have a gorgeous Wild Indigo in the field, so I came to that
>> conclusion quickly. Here are my photos. Besides the descriptions I read in
>> Bug Guide, the only difference I noticed between the two is that baptisiae
>> tended to have more scalloped lines on its forewings; the artivorens' lines
>> are more irregular. I guess I can add to the photos a note "rule out <other
>> sp.>".
>>
>> Attachment
>>
>> Jackie
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:38 AM, J. Merrill Lynch <
>> jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Fall season moths continue to arrive. I had 3 FOY last night (all
>>> macros!) including one, possibly two lifers:
>>>
>>> 8924 Anagrapha falcifera (Celery Looper)--LIFER
>>> 9485 Papaipema baptisiae/arctivorens--I struggled on this one; this group
>>> of closely related species is tough and there are several undescribed
>>> species lurking as well. I'm leaning towards baptisiae based on the orange
>>> ground color as opposed to more yellow/brown on arctivorens; pattern of
>>> spots in reniform and claviform are very similar in both species. I
>>> collected it and hope to get a definitive id soon. If baptisiae, this will
>>> be my 10 species of Papaipema at Echo Valley
>>> 10524 Nephelodes minians (Bronzed Cutworm Moth)--FOY
>>>
>>> --
>>> J. Merrill Lynch
>>> Echo Valley Farm
>>> Watauga County, NC
>>> Elevation: 3,400 feet
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> J. Merrill Lynch
> Echo Valley Farm
> Watauga County, NC
> Elevation: 3,400 feet
>
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