Hi Harry, I wouldn't remove L disposita from your checklist just yet. While Schweitzer may be correct about his hypothesis of two species, so far no evidence has been presented. When he publishes his data, we will be able to evaluate his supposition, but until then all phenotypes belong under the name of L. disposita. When I talked with Dave Wagner, he says he does not know of larval characters that distinguish the two, even though they may exist. This is not a case of a generally recognized undescribed species, but the speculation of a single person, so until it is published, I would recommend you maintain the name L disposita. You might want to mention the phenotype observed in NC so that if this proposed taxon is ever elevated to species level, future workers will be clear about the name that should be applied to the NC material. Hugh On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:59 PM, lance biechele <ltb0076@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Harry, > Your NC State List is truly impressive! I most certainly recognize > your private achievement. > Two families that have personally interested me are both the > Acronicta and Lithophanes. In fact, I think that Merrill has my list > of the dagger moths of the Delmarva. > The attraction of these two familes has also been most rewarding > with my friendship with Dale Schweitzer. Several times, I have sent > him photos of a Pinion that absolutely must be *Lithophane disposita*. > It's NOT! > Unfortunately, *L. disposita* does not occur South of Indiana, Ohio or > the northern "panhandle" of West Virginia. It is also, obiviously, absent > from the Coastal Plain south of Long Island, NY. > Dale has discovered that there is a most deceiving look-a-like species > that extends further south of *L. disposita's* range and as of this > email, it > still remains unnamed, although I think he is working on publishing this > new species. > So,* Lithophane disposita* must be discounted from your list. I await, > with great ancticipation, the final paper to the name of our "southern" > look-alike! > With all Best Regards, > Lance > -- Hugh McGuinness Sag Harbor, NY