The closest I've come up with for #1 is one of those pesky unidentified species. http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=5963.97 ; Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://tinyurl.com/Night-Creatures http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx> To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:41 AM Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Final IDs Paul, Your #1 is definitely not Dioryctria which have a distinct jagged white medial line across the forewing. Could be Laetitia or one of the Sciotas or even possibly Acrobasis--don't have time to look up. Your #2 looks like 4945 Crocidophora tuberculalis. Merrill On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Paul <pandlscharf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Bob, Yeah your photo of a possible Laetilia is more intriguing. This might be unidentified for awhile . Thanks, Paul > > -- J. Merrill Lynch Echo Valley Farm Watauga County, NC Elevation: 3,400 feet