Paul, Your #1 is definitely not Dioryctria which have a distinct jagged white medial line across the forewing. Could be Laetitia or one of the Sciotas or even possibly Acrobasis--don't have time to look up. Your #2 looks like 4945 Crocidophora tuberculalis. Merrill On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Paul <pandlscharf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Bob, Yeah your photo of a possible Laetilia is more intriguing. This might > be unidentified for awhile . Thanks, Paul > > -- J. Merrill Lynch Echo Valley Farm Watauga County, NC Elevation: 3,400 feet