Thanks Ken for your response . Brian, Kyle and I just got back from three nights on Yellow Mountain State Natural Area, Avery and Watauga Counties 4100-5500’. We had close to 130 moth species, not counting a another 20-30 micros that are going to need some ID work. Paul From: Ken Childs Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 12:44 AM To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Coleophora ? Paul, the question marks are because of some glitch with my files and Picasa. For some reason, the random dash here and there is turned into a question mark. I do need to add 'tentative ID' to a bunch of my pics and that includes most of the Coleophora spp. I've been in contact with an expert on Coleophora and he said he's discovered that odds are for every described one you find, you'll find 2 that haven't been described. -- Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com