I defer my support to Garrett if this is a Consensus decision but it is not
the final decision belongs to
Garrett anyway.
George Lambert
On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:44 AM George Lambert <marchon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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I generally lurk more than contribute, but in this case I have an opinion.
This is a good idea. The users here are engineers not end users so we
should be able to work together to Fix any problems from our unique
environments that come up, but the goal is the best library itself.
Not compilation tools or build process, we all have to deal with build
process challenges from time to time.
George
On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:33 AM Mauro Delazeri <maurodelazeri@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I think cmake is good enough--
On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:23 AM Garrett D'Amore <garrett@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Franklin,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Actually, I find the python requirement to be somewhat onerous – I don’t
use Python regularly, and I’ve got too much scar tissue around competing
dependencies and the 18 different ways that Python projects try to cope
around that (such as virtual environments.)
The other thing is that Meson doesn’t have as much traction with IDE
support or mindshare in the community.
The final thing is that I have a lot invested in CMake at this point –
and I don’t think I’m the only one. Picking up yet another build &
configure language just isn’t something I want to spend time on unless
there is a real benefit to doing so.
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Hey Garrett,
Did you have the chance to look at Meson[1] too? It has been gaining
quite the traction for C and C++ projects and I've found it to be way
nicer than CMake overall on my own projects, mostly due to not having
to work around quirks in older versions of CMake, and a proper DSL
where everything isn't just strings. Plus, the only thing Meson
requires is Python 3 and can be installed via pip if there's no
package available for the distro (or on Windows, macOS), so there's no
real issue about availability or using a more recent version.
Cheers,
[1]: https://mesonbuild.com
Le jeu. 2 janv. 2020 à 01:22, Garrett D'Amore <garrett@xxxxxxxxxx> a
écrit :
All,
This is a heads up (and a request for objections if any) that at somepoint soon a future release of NNG (possibly starting with v1.3) will
require significantly newer CMake versions. I’m contemplating requiring at
least 3.13, and probably more like 3.14 or even 3.15.
There are a number of features that more recent CMake brings to thetable, which potentially reduce the effort required to have easily
supportable, flexible configuration. At present we are working around
limitations in older releases, but it’s becoming somewhat annoying to have
to keep doing so. Note that CMake binaries are packaged and freely and
readily available for Ubuntu 16.x and newer, RedHat 7.x and newer, Windows,
and macOS. Recent Visual Studio 2019 even *includes* cmake 3.15.
This might make things slightly more annoying for folks using CMake onnon-mainstream platforms, but even on those platforms bootstrapping CMake
is generally a very simple task. (Note also that modern CMake can cross
compile easily, so even if your target environment is not mainstream, you
won’t be impacted as long as your *development* system isn’t too far off
the beaten path.)
If this is going to cause anyone undue stress, please let me know.
Garrett
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