> > can bell be be accessed minus their crappy SW?? >> Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: >> > >I thought I already said Yes. I used Access Manager to originally set up >Sympatico, but then it was deleted. Worked fine with Hub & now Router. >TTFN, >TeeC > ok. So i think the SW is necessary to set up the connection, bc in the case I am talking abt, using the settings in TCP/IP the connection doesnt work. The other issue is the cd install for some reason isnt working either. Bell tech was supposedly no use. I havent actually seen it myself, so who knows whether it is just a simple fix. I just wanted to know if one could bypass the bell sw installation, but i guess not. The connection works fine in X tho. _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/pages/members.html#Joinmuglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/