Nope its 2003 and if there is or was a update I have just let it update! But you are probably right I bet it?s the Firewall or AVG keeping it from working?? It's funny one computer works just as it should this one must wait? Guess its slow as I am maybe? But I also would think that AVG was all ready loaded and the firewall also? But it must not be loading them in the right order or something like that? It's not a big problem just should do better <g> Thanks for the clue Gene Sounds like Outlook is trying to get the mail before it's fully made the connection to the server. I've seen this many times in older versions of Outlook, but not in Outlook 2003....since you say "all updates", I'm wondering if you mean Outlook 2002, since I don't think there ARE any updates to 2003 yet...or are there? If you have any third party software installed (including AV software or anti-spam software that may have to load when you start Outlook), this could be slowing down Outlook's launch and therefore it is out of sync with the server...that's why it works if you wait a couple minutes and try again Linda F. Johnson, M.A., MOS Linda's Computer Stop http://personal-computer-tutor.com Free e-Books, Newsletter, and tutorials --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.551 / Virus Database: 343 - Release Date: 12/11/2003 ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line. Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles *************************************************************