<<Linda, I do take exception to your statement that Access doesn't contain all of the built in functions that Excel does. It does have many of them, and a number of others that Excel doesn't have. >> Where did I say Access "doesn't contain ALL of the built in functions Excel does"? I said QUOTE financial formulas like PMT, etc ENDQUOTE If Access has these, then that sounds like an ABC article to me, cuz I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking Excel makes this easier and is better with mathematics. If you can show me how access handles financial functions like PMT and FV, etc....then you will have one heck of an article there...cuz I sure can't figure out how to do that in Access without understanding the math behind it. To be clear...I did NOT say Access can't do this....I said you would need to understand the math behind it in order to do it, whereas in Excel, you can just plug in the numbers into Excel's Paste Function box and Excel builds it for you...When I use Access's Expression Builder, I need to know what to multiply by what or I'm lost...with Excel, I don't need to know this. I am NOT saying either program is BETTER....I'm saying they both have a purpose and it's always best to use the right tool for the job. If you believe Access does a better job at financial functions, then PLEASE share that info cuz I'd LOVE to learn it! And, I'm not being sarcastic...if Access has financial functions, I really WOULD love to know where they are and how to use them. Linda Linda's Computer Stop http://personal-computer-tutor.com ABC Free Ezine ~ Free Ebooks and Tutorials *all outgoing mail scanned by Norton AV. If you got a bug that looks like it came from me, it did NOT! -----Original Message----- From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James LaBorde Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:27 AM To: 'mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [mso] Re: Database or Spreadsheet :VSMail mx1 Linda, Speaking as someone who learned Excel first and then Access, I can say that both are very good at certain things. Linda, I do take exception to your statement that Access doesn't contain all of the built in functions that Excel does. It does have many of them, and a number of others that Excel doesn't have. As for the built-in functions, sometimes they can actually be worse than having the ready ability to create your own. Case in point, the year 2000 and many of the financial calculations. In Excel, all financial calculations are based on a 365 day year, unless its a leapyear. Excel did not handle the year 2000 very well as it was the exception to the exception. Attempting to use the Excel calculations threw off many calculations. I was able to write my own equivalents in Access that came up with the correct figures in the long run. While I will readily admit that there are good uses for Excel, Access also does. I will agree with you on Excel being easier to use and more intuitive. Access is definitely a bear to learn, but once learned can be a very powerful tool. James ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line. Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles *************************************************************