Hi Jem This often happens if you tilt a butane (Soudogaz) torch downwards, as liquid gets drawn into the burner instead of gas. I had quite a hairy experience when soldering water pipes in my loft, after which I vowed never to use one again. Nowadays, I always take a small propane cylinder and Sievert torch with me for such work, it's much safer as the cylinder stays upright. Regards Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jem Harrison" <Jem.Harrison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 7:52 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: [modeleng] Re: [modeleng] Re: [modeleng] Re: 3½ versus 5 > My > last experience with a butane torch over twenty years ago, was alarming; > it > went up in flames in my hand, was dropped, rolled under the kitchen sink, > I > unbolted the kitchen door, top and bottom, and played footy with the > flaming > canister until I could kick it into the front garden. This all took about > twenty seconds, but it felt more like years at the time! > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/114 - Release Date: 28/09/2005 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.