Electrics - ain't that the system that runs on lil smoke-filled copper pipes? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 11:40 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Mica? > Sorry, Roger, electrics are beyond my ken. Hopefuul > one of the others will know. Is there no "little > electric repair shop" tucked in a little space "round > the corner from Main Street" in your town that > specializes in repairs of this sort? > > Al Messer > > > --- Roger Mason <roger.g3tdm@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I've just had a disaster! > > > > I have a large electric soldering iron (300 > > watts). I was using > > this the other day when a sort of Frying noise came > > from it. Shortly > > afterwards I realised that it was cooling down, > > despite still being > > plugged in and turned on. I quickly discovered > > that the element was > > open circuit. > > > > So in the "nothing ventured - nothing gained" > > spirit I opened up the > > iron. I eventually found the secret to getting > > inside it and found the > > element very easy to get to. > > > > The element was a simple coil of heater wire > > insulated in sheets of > > translucent material which I assumed was mica. > > However as I delved > > deeper into the element the sheets of mica became > > "welded" together. > > It appears that the element produced a 'hot-spot'. > > In this region the > > mica has changed in appearance and texture. > > Instead of being sheet > > material with a slippery feel, it was a pink > > brittle uniform > > substance, which looked for all the world like the > > pink plaster one > > uses on walls of a room. I carefully chipped this > > away and came to a > > hollow lump of what looked like a black glassy > > substance - very like > > silver solder flux which has melted and solidified. > > I presumed this > > is where the frying came from - a little arc between > > the element and an > > end wire. > > > > My questions are - was this insulation material > > really mica? Does > > mica behave in this way? If it was not mica what > > was it? Have the > > chemists come up with a modern alternative for > > natural mica? > > > > In the meantime I am trying to find a source for > > a new element. > > The iron was made by Goot, a Japanese company who > > have a web site, so > > I have asked if they have a U.K. dealer who can > > supply me - but maybe > > someone on this list has this knowledge. > > > > I look forward to the list's input on this > > topic. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Roger Mason, in St. Agnes. > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > > to, > > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > > "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.