[modeleng] Re: Mica?

  • From: Allen Messer <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 06:40:20 -0700 (PDT)

Sorry, Roger, electrics are beyond my ken.  Hopefuul
one of the others will know.  Is there no "little
electric repair shop" tucked in a little space "round
the corner from Main Street" in your town that
specializes in repairs of this sort?

Al Messer


--- Roger Mason <roger.g3tdm@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
>     I've just had a disaster!
> 
>     I have a large electric soldering iron (300
> watts).   I was using 
> this the other day when a sort of Frying noise came
> from it.   Shortly 
> afterwards I realised that it was cooling down, 
> despite still being 
> plugged in and turned on.   I quickly discovered
> that the element was 
> open circuit.
> 
>     So in the "nothing ventured - nothing gained"
> spirit I opened up the 
> iron.   I eventually found the secret to getting
> inside it and found the 
> element very easy to get to. 
> 
>     The element was a simple coil of heater wire
> insulated in sheets of 
> translucent material which I assumed was mica.  
> However as I delved 
> deeper into the element the sheets of mica became
> "welded" together.   
> It appears that the element produced a 'hot-spot'.  
> In this region the 
> mica has changed in appearance and texture.  
> Instead of being sheet 
> material with a slippery feel,  it was a pink
> brittle uniform 
> substance,  which looked for all the world like the
> pink plaster one 
> uses on walls of a room.   I carefully chipped this
> away and came to a 
> hollow lump of what looked like a black glassy
> substance - very like 
> silver solder flux which has melted and solidified. 
>   I presumed this 
> is where the frying came from - a little arc between
> the element and an 
> end wire.
> 
>     My questions are - was this insulation material
> really mica?   Does 
> mica behave in this way?   If it was not mica what
> was it?   Have the 
> chemists come up with a modern alternative for
> natural mica?
> 
>     In the meantime I am trying to find a source for
> a new element.   
> The iron was made by Goot,  a Japanese company who
> have a web site,  so 
> I have asked if they have a U.K. dealer who can
> supply me - but maybe 
> someone on this list has this knowledge.
> 
>     I look forward to the list's input on this
> topic.
> 
> 
>        Cheers,
> 
> 
>           Roger Mason,  in St. Agnes.
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